| Mar-08-04 | | Whitehat1963: Budzinsky is clearly lost, but what if he plays 12. 0-0? What's next? |
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| Mar-08-04 | | CapAnson: Black plays fxg3 |
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| Mar-09-04 | | Whitehat1963: No, that's an immediate loss: 13. Qxf7+, Kh8 14. Qxe8#. |
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| Mar-09-04 | | Whitehat1963: 12. 0-0 is still a loss for white, but it's not as bad as immediate resignation. They might have continued thus: 12...Bxf3, 13. gxh4, Bxe2 14. Rxf4, Bd1 15. Rf2, Re1+ 16. Kg2, Nd7. |
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| Mar-09-04 | | Whitehat1963: The thing is, that even as bad as it looks, the position still had a trick or two left for white. So, again I ask, what's best for black after 12. 0-0? |
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| Mar-09-04 | | Benjamin Lau: Whitehat, I see nothing wrong with your continuation. What also works is 12. o-o Qxh2+ 13. Kxh2 Bxf3 14. Rxf3 Rxe2 15. Bxf4 Rxc2 but I like your line a little better because of the slight paralysis in white's position. 17. Bd2 looked like a problem at first to me, but ...Bf3+ would stop it. |
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| Mar-09-04 | | Benjamin Lau: Hmmm, I fudged up. My line is slightly better because after 12. o-o Qxh2+ 13. Kxh2 Bxf3 14. Rxf3 Rxe2 is an Rxe2+, and white's position falls more easily after 15. Kg1 Rxc2 16. Bxf4 Rxc3 |
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| Mar-09-04 | | Whitehat1963: <BL>, I'm sticking with my computer's line rather than yours. After 12. 0-0, Qxh2, it offers the following line which makes black's eventual victory even more difficult: 13. Kxh2, Bxf3 14. Rxf3, Rxe2+ 15. Kh3 (not Kg1), Rxc2 16. Bxf4, Rc3 17. Re1, Na6 18. Re7, f6 19. d6, cxd6 20. Rxb7, Nc5 21. Rc7, Rxd3 22. Rxd3, Nxd3 23. Bxd6, a6. Then black's up the equivalent of a couple of pawns, but it's a long way from over. My point is that Budzinski (what a great name, btw.) resigned prematurely. There was still a lot of life left in that position. What do Crafty, Junior, Shredder, Fritz, etc. offer as the best line after 12. 0-0? |
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| Mar-09-04 | | Whitehat1963: Premature resignation. 12. 0-0. What's Crafty's continuation from there? |
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| Aug-24-05 | | sneaky pete: Sergeant concludes "11... Bg4 winning a piece and the game". Most likely Budzinsky didn't resign at this point yet, but the remaining moves were not saved for posterity. Even if white did resign after 11... Bg4 (would be his best move of the game), it is certainly not premature. Morphy could have given him Knight odds, so why doubt if he could win with an extra Knight? White should have played 11.Qf2 .. of course. |
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| Nov-28-05 | | ath: The sources I have checked so far (i.e. Lowenthal's collection, which is also cited by the Oxford Encyclopedia,--and Family Herald, 1859-04-02) all break off after move 11. In Family Herald, two rather short lines of analysis are given (beginning with 12. gxh4 and 12. Qg2). The year is odd -- I'd be more inclined to believe it was played in 1858. |
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Nov-28-05
 | | Calli: <ath> "inclined to believe it was played in 1858." Godd catch! Max Lange gives Budzinski as one of Morphy's Paris opponents in 1858. Morphy record against Budzinski: 7 wins 0 losses in even games
12 wins 1 loss 1 draw at odds of a pawn and a move
<ckr> I see no reason to date these games as 1859. |
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| Mar-26-11 | | Llawdogg: That was quick. |
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| Sep-03-11 | | DrMAL: <Whitehat1963: I'm sticking with my computer's line rather than yours.> I'm sticking with: If about to lose at least a knight with bad position (against Morphy) it's probably a good time to spill coffee on yourself and politely leave. |
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