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Paul Morphy vs NN
New Orleans (1858), Mar-24
King's Gambit: Accepted. King's Knight Gambit (C34)  ·  1-0
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Oct-05-13
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  TheFocus: Did <AJ> not see <jnpope>'s post preceding his that had the same link?
Oct-05-13
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  TheFocus: <AJ> please allow me to introduce you to Mr. Nick Pope. Not only is he the author of <Harry Nelson Pillsbury American Chess Champion>, THE finest work ever done on Pillsbury, but he is also the webmaster of www.chessarch.com, one of the finest historical chess websites today.

He, along with John Hilbert, are the two best chess historians in the US, and are among the best in the world.

Oct-05-13
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  TheFocus: My picks for best chess historians in the USA.

1. John Hilbert

2. Nick Pope

3. <TheFocus>

4. John Donaldson

5. <Batgirl>

Oct-05-13  Karpova: <LIFE Master AJ: I also told him that I would put my knowledge about chess HISTORY up against any man alive today. (Maybe only Winter and Soltis could claim a clear superiority in this field.)> jessicafischerqueen chessforum
Oct-05-13
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  perfidious: Curious what <TheFocus> et al think of my old foe and acquaintance Taylor Kingston in the field of chess history.
Oct-05-13
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  jnpope: <<LIFE Master AJ:> OOOoops! This one shows the longer version as well ...>

Perhaps I misunderstood what you wanted a scan of, I thought perhaps you wanted to see the "P. R." initials (which, as Calli points out, are almost certainly Lange's version of NN). Here is a short-version of the game if that is what you are seeking:

Morphy's Games, 1860. Bohn, p209-210:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ur...

Oct-05-13  LIFE Master AJ: I did not change the score on my web page, however, there is a note about the game score at the bottom of the page.
Oct-05-13  DoctorD: Cary Utterberg and Peter Lahde could both easily make claims to being better chess historians than an anon poster on the net, to name but two individuals with publications in the history of the game.
Oct-05-13
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  TheFocus: The above list was not posted by me but by a member of my household. A jokester.

Much as I admire <Bat girl>'s work, I don't consider her a candidate to be on that list.

And I am in no way in the top 100. Or 1,000.

(Shrugs)

Oct-07-13  LIFE Master AJ: The last link ... does (indeed) show the shorter version.
Oct-07-13  MarkFinan: <TheFocus: The above list was not posted by me but by a member of my household. A jokester.>

How you can laugh at AJ's tales and then come here saying crap that's even harder to believe, I do not know.

And if Lamont isn't mentally ill then why did he get "his nurse" to come here announcing his death??

No mercy no quarter (whatever that's supposed to mean!?) for you little wimp.

Oct-07-13  LIFE Master AJ: I also find it difficult to believe that someone in your own home posted a link - or anything else - (that you had no knowledge of) ... that sounds so absurd so as to be impossible!
Oct-07-13
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  Jim Bartle: I also find this difficult to believe (posted on your player page):

<A lady - and her son, who plays chess - sent me an e-mail. They love my new web page, http://www.ajschess.com/lifemastera..., saying that: "I hit this one out of the ballpark.">

They actually wrote, "I hit this one out of the ballpark"? What sense does that make?

Oct-07-13  john barleycorn: I love that page, too. < hmmmm. Many experts question this. I give two exclams (maybe !!!) for "how not to do it">
Oct-07-13  MarkFinan: <LIFEMasterAJ: I also find it difficult to believe that someone in your own home posted a link - or anything else - (that you had no knowledge of) ... that sounds so absurd so as to be impossible!>

Give up now fellas, AJ agrees therefore it's the truth!!!! ;)

Oct-07-13  LIFE Master AJ: Does anyone know of any archive for the main New Orleans newspaper? (The Delta?)
Oct-07-13
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  jnpope: Known holdings for the New Orleans Sunday Delta:
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/l...

I don't know of any online sources that have a complete record. You may want to check with the Cleveland Public Library, John G. White collection, and see if they have a scrapbook of the New Orleans Sunday Delta. If they do they may have it archived to microfilm and for sale through their duplications department.

Oct-07-13
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  Robed.Bishop: I might be mistaken, but I think in 1858 it was called the New Orleans Daily Delta.
Oct-07-13
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  jnpope: There was a daily Delta which was published during the week (no chess column). The weekly Sunday Delta contained the chess column.
Oct-08-13  LIFE Master AJ: Thanks for the info.

I have written several sources ... but not the JGW. (But that is a VERY GOOD suggestion, it may be the only place where those records might still be available.)

Oct-08-13  MarkFinan: Just been through this game and 18.Rf3 seemed the natural move, and I thought that before I let the engine look at it.

Also 10...kh8 seemed a luxury move, but saying that, poor NN was already getting thrashed by move 6 anyway.

Oct-10-13  LIFE Master AJ: Paul Morphy - NN [C34]
New Orleans, 24,03,1858.

An analysis with Houdini 1.5.
(All the analysis moves originate from this engine.)

1.e4 e5; 2.f4 exf4; 3.Nf3 c6; 4.Nc3,

[4.d4]

4...Bb4!?;

[4...d6]

5.Bc4!,

[5.a3!?]

5...Bxc3?;

6.dxc3! Ne7!?; Possibly dubious.

7.Qd6! 0-0; 8.Bxf4 Ng6; 9.Bg5! Qe8;

[9...Qb6 10.0-0-0 ]

10.0-0 Kh8;

[RR 10...b5; 11.Bb3 a5; 12.a3 Bb7; 13.Rae1, '']

11.Rae1!,

[RR 11.Nh4!? Nxh4!?; 12.Bxh4 Na6; 13.Be7 ]

11...f6;

[11...b5]

12.e5! f5!; 13.Nd4! f4; 14.e6! dxe6; 15.Nxe6 Bxe6; 16.Rxe6 Qc8;

[RR16...Qd7; 17.Rxg6 Qxd6; 18.Rxd6 Na6; 19.Bxa6 ]

17.Rxg6! hxg6!?;

[17...Rg8; 18.Bxg8 ]

18.Qxg6!, Brilliant, but ...

[ Better was: >/= 18.Rf3!! , " " (Mate in eight?) ]

18...Qf5; 19.Rxf4! Qxg6; 20.Rxf8+ Kh7; 21.Bg8+ Kh8; 22.Bf7+ Kh7; 23.Bxg6+, 1-0

Oct-10-13  LIFE Master AJ: BTW, I spent 2-3 days on the above, I thought it would make an interesting counterpoint/supplement to my web page ...

I think its also amazing that even the computers only find one real improvement on this masterpiece that was played so long ago. (1858, 100 years before I was born!)

Oct-10-13
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  Robed.Bishop: <AJ: I think its also amazing that even the computers only find one real improvement on this masterpiece...>

Well then one of them had to be using a computer to cheat...

Oct-10-13  fkahlo: This is i think one of Morphy free games

1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Bc4 Be7 4.Nf3 Bh4+ 5.g3 fxg3 6.O-O gxh2+ 7.Kh1 Qe7 8.Nc3 Bg3 9.d4 f6 10.Nd5! Qxe4 11.Bf4!! c6 12.Bxg3 cxd5 13.Re1 Ne7 14.Rxe4+ de 15.d5!! efx3 16.d6 Nf5 17.Kxh2 Nxg3 18.Kxg3 Nc6 19.Qd5 Kd8 20.Qf7 1-0

I am not sure i think there was few more moves but that they are lost.

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