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A Hood vs J Hood
"Hoodwinked" (game of the day Aug-28-12)
corr ENG 1870  ·  King's Gambit: Accepted. Hanstein Gambit (C38)  ·  0-1
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Kibitzer's Corner
Jul-01-12
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  HeMateMe: Look, this kinda stuff just happens, in the 'Hood.
Jul-02-12  ForeverYoung: Black had a merry old time after 18 Qc4. A burning question here is what does Black have after 18 Qxg7?
Aug-28-12  Zan: <ForeverYoung: A burning question here is what does Black have after 18 Qxg7?>

I ran this through Crafty, and it finally ended up at more than a two pawn advantage for black after <18...Qa6 <threatening rook> 19.c4 Qxc4 20.Nc3 Rhe8 21. b3 Qxc3 22.Bb2 Qc6 23.d5 Qxd5 24.Rc2 Qd6>

Aug-28-12  LoveThatJoker: "24...?" Black to play and win, would make for a good Wednesday puzzle.

LTJ

Aug-28-12
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  scormus: Great pun! KGA produces many games where one side thinks he's building up an attack, but turns out the other side.

Early moves were similar to a recent online game of mine as W. I wondered about playing Qb3 but rather felt the threat on f7 was unimportant, but my Q would be away from the action. Glad I played something else

Aug-28-12
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  dakgootje: <<ForeverYoung: A burning question here is what does Black have after 18 Qxg7?>

I ran this through Crafty, and it finally ended up at more than a two pawn advantage for black after <18...Qa6 <threatening rook> 19.c4 Qxc4 20.Nc3 Rhe8 21. b3 Qxc3 22.Bb2 Qc6 23.d5 Qxd5 24.Rc2 Qd6>>

So it seems Crafty is simply throwing material at black to go away.

I suppose the real problem for white is that its e2-rook is pinned to f1. Which would be mate. So it's interesting to see what would happen after 18. Qxg7 Qa6 19. Rf2. Perhaps you could run that as well, as my GUI recently died, so I don't have an engine anymore.

Anyway, perhaps something like 18. Qxg7 Qa6 19. Rf2 g3 20. hxg3 hxg3 21. Rf3 Reg8 22. Qf7 Qe2 with threats all over the place.

But well.. I don't know - position seems complex, so it's easy to blunder.

Aug-28-12
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  FSR: This is the only game in the database by either Hood.
Aug-28-12
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  dakgootje: <This is the only game in the database by either Hood.>

They just didn't give a hoot.

Aug-28-12
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  TheFocus: Just boys in de hood.
Aug-28-12
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  Eisenheim: I've said it many of times if you're gonna go with the kings gambit then attack,attack, attack,like they would in the hood.
Aug-28-12  rapidcitychess: I dunno about this game...

Seems kinda shady.

Aug-28-12
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  perfidious: Black's victory here will probably not encourage many to take up the cudgels with 7....Qe7 in preference to the modern 7....Ne7 or 7....Nc6, though Black wasn't dissuaded a few years on in Chigorin vs Burn, 1889.

Any guesses whether Burn managed to light up his pipe in that encounter?

Aug-28-12
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  Castleinthesky: Great pun and game. Certainly, this is not Mr. Roger's Hood!
Aug-28-12
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  playground player: The King's Gambit really shouldn't look like this for White. 7.c3 just won't do! White should be developing his pieces instead. The King's Gambit is the chess equivalent of the gunslinger slamming open the doors of the saloon and growling, "All right, who wants a piece of me?" He who hesitates is lost.
Aug-28-12
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  kevin86: Black will win the exchange after all of the forced trading.
Aug-28-12
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  perfidious: <pgp> In the 1980s, I had a number of games as Black in the Hanstein after a slightly different move order; at move seven, most players went for 7.c3, but I had several games with 7.Nc3 Nc6 instead against opponents from 2000-2250.

Have a look at this fierce battle in the 7.c3 variation: Steinitz vs G Neumann, 1867.

Aug-28-12
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  playground player: <perfidious> Well, 7.c3 worked a lot better for Steinitz than it seemed to work for Mr. Hood. Fine example, I agree.

If somebody wants to play "kiss in the ring," he's better off staying away from the King's Gambit. The opening demands of White a total commitment to the attack. Steinitz lost the game, but no one can say he was trying to tiptoe through it.

Aug-28-12
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  perfidious: <pgp> In principle I agree that 7.c3 looks weaker than 7.Nc3: the problem with 7.Nc3 is that, while a developing move, it fails to safeguard d4, and some pretty wins have resulted from tactics such as ....Nxe4 followed by ....Nxd4. White's centre looks shaky when he doesn't take time to reinforce the d4 pawn.
Aug-28-12  drnooo: HOODLUMS both
Aug-28-12
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  SuperPatzer77: It could be Robin Hood of the West vs Robin Hood of the East - LOL LOL

SuperPatzer77

Aug-29-12  Moszkowski012273: 18.Qxg7, Qa6 19.Rf2 loses even faster to ...g3 20.hxg3, Rhg8 with the doubling of the Rooks on the g file.
Aug-29-12
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  dakgootje: < Moszkowski012273: 18.Qxg7, Qa6 19.Rf2 loses even faster to ...g3 20.hxg3, Rhg8 with the doubling of the Rooks on the g file.>

ah, yes, wonderful - thank you! I hadn't given retaking the pawn much thought - but of course Rg8 is very very strong indeed. And probably much more clear-cut than the variation I suggested.

Dec-05-13
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  whiteshark: You can tell they're old Hoodies.
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