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|May-06-06|| ||chessmoron: What a daring opening for J. Fort. If he open this against a good player, DEATH!!!!!!!!|
|May-06-06|| ||Zivildiener: well, actually I know Black's version of this gambit as "elephant gambit"... I analysed it a little bit,
1. e4 f5 2. exf5 Kf7
and now the best is Bc4+ because d5 fails to Qh5+ so e6 and Black has hardly anything... after the "standard" Qh5+ g6 fxg6+ Kg7 gxh7 I usually continue with Nf6 and not Rxh7 although both moves should work...
One would think that the opening is an entire desaster but after Qh5 my results with it (against equally strong players in games up to 10 minutes) are really good (and my results against it were bad until I discovered Bc4)
both, the black and the white version are judged by fritz as +2 or so, but in actual play it is not so easy to actually win the position, especially after the Queen is vulnerable...
a great opening :D I love it
|May-06-06|| ||Phi: I play the elephant gambit as well, but of course only in blitz game.
As white, the kings gambit is my first choice with classic time control, but I didn't have the guts to play 3.Kf2 so far. :)|
|May-06-06|| ||Shajmaty: <chessmoron: the worst move is 14...Nf6--I think f6 should be better> Even after 14... f6; 15. Rh2, Qg6; 16. Bd3, White's compensation is huge. Bigger mistakes were 19... Nc8? (instead of 19... Ng6) and, of course, 20...Ng4??|
|May-06-06|| ||Shajmaty: I believe 7... d6 is not the best move at all. I would have played 7... d5 (preventing a future Bc4) or even 7... Bd6, quickening Black King Wing development.|
|May-06-06|| ||SlashZ: Crazy opening... I have to be drunk to play something like this... ^^ Not within my play range, you know...|
|May-06-06|| ||weev: Truly sensational.
There is the art of chess of luring your opponent into a confidence beyond their reach, and then stinging them.
This is such a game.
|May-06-06|| ||pwrstick: That was the most entertaining game I've seen in a while! Quite bizarre - thanks CG. I think I will go study some KGA and see where that takes me on Yahoo :-)|
|May-06-06|| ||Treadhead57: There is a U.S. Army base in Kentucky named "Fort Campbell". It is the home of the 101st Airmobile Division also known as the "Screaming Eagles".|
|May-06-06|| ||kevin86: What is a tumbleweed? It is a bush that breaks off its moorings,wanders aimlessly, and causes havoc-not to be confused with a "W"-a Bush that breaks off his moorings and causes havoc----lol|
|May-06-06|| ||ajile: I like the Platypus 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf 3.Nf3 f5! There was a game here a few days ago with a similar move order. Black takes White out of known lines early.|
|May-06-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: Very risky opening, but a great game!
See this game for how NOT to play the Tumbleweed:
Nash vs J Jordan, 1979
|May-06-06|| ||syracrophy: 21...Qxg5 22.Rxf8+:
<A)> 22...Rxf8 23.Qxf8++
<B)> 22...Ke7 23.Qf7++
A very risky opening!
|May-06-06|| ||patzer2: I suppose it's called the tumbleweed attack because the poor Black Queen gets harassed and deflected all over the board, like a piece of worthless tumbleweed caught in the wind, while White gets enormous development for his sacrificed pawns. |
In this case, after moving five times the Queen must allow mate or surrender, like a piece of tumblewood about to be tossed into the fire, following the decoy, clearance pseudo-sacrifice 21. Bg5+!
|May-06-06|| ||patzer2: At http://www.campbell.army.mil/newint... is the site for Fort Campbell Kentucky's 101st Airborne.|
At http://www.angelfire.com/music5/crn... is a Roy Rogers (Sons of the Pioneers I think) WAV rendition of the song "Tumbling Tumbleweed."
|May-06-06|| ||notveryfamous: <Doctor Who> You can find three different versions of the poem describing the moves of three games
|May-06-06|| ||jajaja: what if black plays 20...Ne4 instead of 20...Ng4?|
|May-06-06|| ||LluviaSean: What does it mean when there is a King's symbol beside your name in a quote?|
|May-06-06|| ||patzer2: After 20...Ne4 21. Rg2 White has a slight edge, but Black may be able to hold. However, IMO White with the initiative and superior development is in no danger of losing, while the same can't be said for Black.|
|May-08-06|| ||dakgootje: One of the most brilliant openings around ;-)|
|May-15-06|| ||Shajmaty: <jajaja: what if black plays 20...Ne4 instead of 20...Ng4?> <patzer2: After 20...Ne4 21. Rg2 White has a slight edge, but Black may be able to hold.> After 20...Ne4; 21. Rg2, both 21...a6; 22. Nc3, Qf6; 23. Re1, Qxe6; 24. Rxe4, Qg8; 25. Bg5+ and 21...Be7; 22. Qf3! provide White with a clear advantage. 20...Nh5; 21. Bd2, Be7 is the only way for Black to hold on, although White has more than compensation for his two pawns.|
|Dec-31-07|| ||John Barrington: It would be nice if this editor woul not edit out all the spaces I put in to format the moves below. |
White Bringer Chess
1. e4 e5
2. f4 exf4
3. K-f2 Q-h4+
4. g3 fxg3
5. K-g2 gxh2
6. Rxh2 Qxe4+
7. N-f3 B-d6!
Still, Bringer was vulnerable. After opening up and playing Nc3-b5 (at which Bringer castled anyway), I was able to play N-g2 ..., B-h6 ...,
R-g2 ..., R-h2 ..., Bxg7 ... (all the while leaving my Queen's knight en prise) and Bringer could not take back the bishop because R-g2 would skewer Bringer's Queen.
But there is a continuation where Bringer trades his Queen for a rook and still has a material edge although white has the board open to him (characteristic of the tumbleweed) and black's pieces falling al over each other.
I want to pursue a few other variations on King's Own (Tumbleweeds).
|Oct-03-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 3 Kf2 is very odd|
|Oct-03-09|| ||chillowack: This looks like two low-rated players trading bad moves back and forth.|
White gives away three(!) pawns for nothing and totally exposes his king in the opening, and then Black decides that moving the same pieces over and over is preferable to getting his king out of the center.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see anything particularly "brilliant" or "subtle" about
White's play here. To me it just looks like garbage chess.
|Jun-28-10|| ||Wyatt Gwyon: This opening was played against John Grady by the Duena Alfonsa in All the Pretty Horses. fwiw. She refers to it as "The King's Own" opening, citing the Irish champion Pollock as the inventor (which is apparently true). I found it interesting that it was also known as the tumbleweed. McCarthy's novels are full of stuff like that...|
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