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François André Philidor vs NN
Unknown 1790  ·  King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit. Modern Transfer (C31)  ·  1-0


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Kibitzer's Corner
Dec-05-03
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  InspiredByMorphy: I find this game amazing because the opening few moves are good! They actually constitute a main line of play commonly seen today when playing the falkbeer counter gambit as black, exf. NN & Philidor were way ahead of their time here! 1790. One other reason this game is so intriguing, is that now knowing the falkbeer was around before Morphy, and how influential philidor was to him, why he chose not to regularly play the falkbeer as black. Im guessing he believed to accept the kings gambit was much better. Its too bad as I believe the falkbeer var. where 3. exf is the best continuation as black. I would of loved to see Morphy play it, but maybe it was just a little too experimental still?
Sep-05-04
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  Knight13: So white can't stop the mate. Good game.
Oct-20-04
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  InspiredByMorphy: To correct my own post, Morphy did play the Falkbeer counter gambit. J Schulten vs Morphy, 1857 I dont think he found it to be too experimental either. I think he just preferred accepting the pawn, and trying to hold onto it. Until recently I didnt understand how effective this is. I used to always play the Falkbeer, but now play the Fischers defense primarily (1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Nf3 d6), and try to hold onto the extra pawn. The Falkbeer is more offensive and exciting however...
Nov-19-04   Jaymthegenius: Kf2???? that's terrible! instead of 5.d4 he should have played 5.Nc3 instead. I mean, I've been told by many people that Philidor would be more then capable of defeating Chessmaster, and this game is proof that my case is right in that he would NOT be able to! As chessmaster said that Kf2 was a blunder
Oct-31-06   Gbness: Does every single one of Philidor's games involve incorporating pawns in the grand scheme of things?
Apr-08-07   MasterSavely: <Jaymthegenius> Kf2 isn't blunder, its more like hope chess. what if he didn't put that bishop there? 6.Kf2?(not a blunder.. but not the best move.) g6(could be anything....sorta) 7.Bb5+ Kd8 (Ke7 if you want to lose the queen.) Re1 Qf5 8.Re8++
Oct-15-08
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  just a kid: During the game I bet NN thought Philidor's king was exposed.

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