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Paul Morphy vs Alonzo Morphy
"How to Beat Your Dad at Chess" (game of the day Jun-15-2014)
New Orleans (1848), New Orleans, LA USA
King's Gambit: Accepted. Bishop's Gambit Greco Variation (C33)  ·  1-0


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Jun-15-14  Riverbeast: One of the seminal moments of a child's life is when he realizes Dad is a patzer
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  Sally Simpson: Hi ChessYouGood,

I'll bite.

The thing we must remember is that at one time we were not all that sure that some of the moves played by Morphy's opponents was 'terrible play.'

It was these clear cut perfect examples of open play and development by Morphy that taught us so much of what we know and take for granted today.

The game would be a lot poorer without Morphy's games. If you cannot learn anything from the above game or find it terrible I'd consider giving up chess, it's not the game for you.

Try Knitting.

It will keep your hands busy and hopefully off your computer keyboard.

Jun-15-14  waustad: Murray Chandler is probably glad for the plug.
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  Domdaniel: It's a competent player against a less competent one. That's all.

I note that Morphy fans are prone to hyperbole.

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  perfidious: <Dom> As are some of his detractors.
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Dom, (again)

Well it's not too bad for an 11 year boy who never had that much in the form of chess literature to learn from.

In them days Black was still playing White.


There is 50-50 chance that the board set up in the Morphy house on that day after 1.e5 e4 2.f2 was this.

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You could win a 10 bet by asking who was White in the 'Immortal Game'. It was Kieseritzky, Anderssen had the Black pieces but moved first.

So who taught Morphy?

I don't agree with the school who think Morphy could be in the top 20 of today's players and on another day I could build a case that the Morphy hype over-shadowed other developments that were taking place in chess.

But no Morphy....unthinkable. He left us such wonderful insructive games and I've heard too many comments from beginners to GM's who say they fell in love with the game thanks to playing over a Morphy game.

Type that at half time - c'mon Argentina.

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  Domdaniel: <Type that at half time - c'mon Argentina.> The Bozzies weren't bad, though, were they? I hope they both go through.

And, OK, Morphy wasn't bad either (!).

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  Sally Simpson: 2-1 and 90 for me. That started off as a 5.00 roll up along with Italy, Holland and Brazil. Just needed France and Argentina to roll it home.

For a moment when it was 1-0 and Messi nearly knocked out a flood light with a free kick I was thinking here is someone else beginning with the letter 'M' who really is overrated........then he scored. (thank you Lionel Messi).

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  perfidious: Ninety quid should buy you a pint down at the corner.
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  Sally Simpson: The plan is keep 20 back for more gambling on the world cup (I like gambling with their money) a nice 6 team 10 roll up on the favourites next round (Holland-Spain was the gamble last round.)

Think I'll buy the David Janowski's best games book, it's one of the very few game collections I don't have and I've always rated him as a player.

And yes a couple of pints and a 5 minute session in Sandy Bells are in order.

The drink of course will be Murphy's Irish Stout. And apparently it's not a pun on Morphy. According to Edward Winter there is a link.

C.N.5068. Morphy and beer

Did you see how nicely I swung that back onto the Morphy topic.

I don't just cobble these posts together in slap-dash fashion. Forum posting is an acquired skill.

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  Shams: <And yes a couple of pints and a 5 minute session in Sandy Bells are in order.>

Well, wear protection.

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  kevin86: Son beats father (at chess)
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  Domdaniel: <Sally> -- <The drink of course will be Murphy's Irish Stout. And apparently it's not a pun on Morphy. According to Edward Winter there is a link.>

The crime novelist John Connolly (his recurring hero is named Charlie 'Bird' Parker) set one of his books around New Orleans ... where there was an Irish-American cop called Morphy, "descended from the chess champion".

What Connolly overlooked was (1) the absence of Morphy descendants in real life, and (2) the fact that the Morphy family were posh Spanish-American lawyers ... not Micko cops.

Connolly is from Dublin -- I've interviewed him for a paper -- and should know better.

Murphy's Stout, of course, is from Cork, like me. Though I don't like the stuff.

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  Sally Simpson: Hi Dom,

Winter does link Morphy with Ireland on the fathers side and the coat of arms displayed in the link does seem to show this.

Worked with Edward Winter once on one of his notes. Never met such a meticulous man. He ordered and bought a non-chess book just to double check one referernce.

Chess should be very glad we have him. His site is the best thing on the net.

Been listening for chess references in the World Cup. 'it's like a game of chess' or 'stalemate.'

Currently halfway though a column where I use football terms in chess notes.

'Sick as a parrot', 'A Knight offside' etc.... (lost pieces are those sent off, promotions are the subs coming on...sounds totally crap I know but it will look OK when it's finished.)

Just looking for a 'game of two halves' and I'll have it done.

Not too fond of Murphy Stout either prefer Guiness.

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  Domdaniel: <Sally S.> Got one ... John Giles on RTE TV, Colombia vs Ivory Coast ... "bit of a stalemate".
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  Domdaniel: "It's the accumulation of things that lead to consequences" -- Eamon Dunphy.

Hmm. Could be football, or a Steinitzian approach to chess?

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  Domdaniel: "Almost like a game of chess at the moment, looking for the next move that will open it up" -- RTE commentator on Iran v Argentina.
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Dom,

I did it, finished it yesterday.

Some of the moves you see there will turn your hair white.

Missed mates in one, castling into mate in one (both King and Queenside.) These are not blitz games. The players actually had 20+ days to make a move!

It turned out OK. Even came up with a new term: The Maradona Mate. (nothing to do with the 'Hand of God' that was a poor ref's decision - 20 years earlier one gave England a goal in the World Cup Final. In Football, as in Chess, what goes around comes around.)

Re TV Commentators:

I wish one would say something like:

"This game is liking watching the Exchange French between two grandmothers."


"Brazil are attacking like Morphy did when playing the Evans Gambit. A joy to watch, unless you are the opponent."

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  Domdaniel: <Sally> -- The chess/football thing doesn't always work, of course. Take this position:

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If the White King is the penalty taker or striker, the pawn is the ball, and the Black King is the opposition keeper, then the solution is simple: smash the pawn forward into the net.

But the chess solution is different: you must leave the 'pawn' on the spot, run out in front of it with 1.Kd5, elbow the opposition player aside, and only then let the ball roll into the net.

Hmm ... come to think of it, they're not so different after all. A pawn/ball mindlessly kicked straight ahead will be saved. The key in both games is to pick your spot...

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  Sally Simpson: Hi Dom,

It was all, as always, mixing a bit of fun with instruction. I do wish though that football commentators would not refer to boring matches as like a game of chess.

In your posted position the White King runs into space wrong footing a defender so the ball (at the pawn's feet) can be slotted home.

This position would cause a problem.

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Mutual Zugzwang. Who ever has the move loses.

One could say everytime England kicks off they are in Zugzwang.

Jan-28-16  juanhernandez: good game !!!
Aug-19-16  talhal20: Why are Morphy games are so much commented on/written about than any other players say Fischer/Kasparov/Capablanca/Alekhine/Carlsen. Can any one explain?
Jan-08-18  yureesystem: Morphy's dad wasn't very good. Final position Morphy wins the queen or mates. :) 18...Qd8 19.Re8 + double check and mate. 18...Qf7 19.Re7 Qxc4 3.Qxc4+ wins the queen.
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  romancitog: Paul Morphy certainly would not do badly in today's chess world even without opening a book. Once a genius, always a genius.
Jul-12-18  JPi: Sure Paul Morphy could learn modern chess opening theory in only few months. He could remember most of every thing he wants. It would be indeed very interesting to see how much he enjoys Indian defences or hypermodern chess approach.
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