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Vidor vs Jozsef Szen
"It Goes Without Szen" (game of the day Aug-08-2007)
Budapest (1856)
King's Gambit: Accepted. Bishop's Gambit Lopez Variation (C33)  ·  1-0
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Feb-11-07  Autoreparaturwerkbau: Double rook sac proves to be sane.
Mar-01-07  wolfmaster: Or rather, insane!
Apr-13-07  Skylark: There's no way that Qb3 alone was sound, let alone Qb4.
Aug-08-07  syracrophy: 20...♔e8 21.♕xe6+ ♔f8 22.♗d6+ ♔g8 23.♘h6#
Aug-08-07
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Or rather, In-Szen!
Aug-08-07  Magic Castle: Black was blinded with greed. 17.... Qxg4 or 17....Qd5, could have posed some problem for white or at least prolonged the game.
Aug-08-07
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: For future reference, "King Vidor" would be a good title for a Game of the Day.
Aug-08-07  Autoreparaturwerkbau: Szen (pronounced as: SANE). You must like hungarian language :)
Aug-08-07  soberknight: It goes without Szen that Black is about to be mated.
Aug-08-07  ajile: I think 3..d5 ruins White's fun in this line.

A Anaja vs De Aguilar, J, 1967

lol

Aug-08-07  RandomVisitor: After 19.Ng5
1: Vidor - Jozsef Szen, Budapest 1856


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Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a mp up:

(19-ply)
1. (-0.33): 19...Bxd4+ 20.Ke2 Ke8 21.Qxe6+ Ne7 22.Nf7 Qxa2 23.Bc7 Qa6 24.Qxa6 Kxf7 25.Qxc4+ Ke8 26.Qxd4

2. (0.00): 19...Ke8 20.Qxe6+ Ne7 21.Qf7+ Kd8 22.Qxg7 Ng6 23.Nf7+ Kc8 24.Nd6+ Kc7 25.Ne8+ Kd8 26.Nf6

Aug-08-07  Autoreparaturwerkbau: Rybka and RandomVisitor prove double rook sac to be inSzen. :)

Good job!

Aug-08-07  Jack Kerouac: No za-zen for Szen.
Aug-08-07  unixfanatic: Greed - a mistake often made in chess. It's amazing how if you tempt someone with something they almost always will go after it, even if it's fairly obvious they'll suffer for it.
Aug-08-07
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  Chessmensch: <An Englishman> From the lack of comments I suspect that Chessgames.com has a limited number of movie buffs.
Aug-08-07  EARNSKI: Am I Insane or CHESSGAMES?
Aug-08-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <EARNSKI> You don't want an answer, do you ? :D
Aug-08-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Black is down to two choices:to be mated in one after Kd8 or two after Kf8.

I notice that this game is rated as a knight sac on the sacrifice explorer-shouldn't it be noted as a two rook sacrifice instead?

Aug-08-07  Jack Kerouac: <Chessmensch> King Vidor; movie director from the 40's-50's, no?
Aug-08-07  RandomVisitor: After 11.Qb3
1: Vidor - Jozsef Szen, Budapest 1856


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Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a mp up:

11...cxd5 12.Qxb7 dxc4 13.Qxa8 Kc8 14.Qxa7 Nf6 15.e5 Nd5 16.exd6 Nc6 17.Qa6+ Kd7 18.c3 (-1.00) Depth: 22

Aug-08-07
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  Calli: After 19...Ngf6??, it was Auf Vidor Szén for József. ;-)
Aug-08-07  tatarch: Immortal game-esque with the double rook sac... although obviously not as charming
Aug-08-07  Joshua01: 17...Qxh1 must be the losing move.
Black is up a piece, and I don't see any definitive themes if the Q's are traded off. 17...Qd5 allows either a trade off or for the black pieces to untangle themselves.

...or am I missing something here?

Aug-08-07  backyard pawn: Vidor proved to be a Szen master in this game!
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