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Taylor vs NN
Thorpe ENG (1874)  ·  King's Gambit: Accepted. Quade Gambit (C37)  ·  1-0
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Oct-19-04
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  Willem Wallekers: Nothing wrong with 5 ... Qh4+. After 7 ... Qxg4 8. Nxg4 d5 (or d6) Black is safe.
Oct-19-04
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  patzer2: White's pretty combination succeeds only because of Black's blunder 10...Be7?? Instead, Black should play 10...d6! with a winning advantage.

Play might continue 10...d6! 11. Nxf7 c6! (11...Be7? 12. Nxe7 Kxf7 13. Nxc8 Rxc8 14. Qh5+ Kg7 15. Qg4+ Kf7 16. Bg5 ) 12. Nxh8 cxd5 13. Qh5+ Kd7 14. Qxh7+ Ne7 15. e5 dxe5 16. dxe5 Kc7 17. Bg5 Bf5 18. Qh4 Nc6 19. 0-0-0 Nab4 20. a3 Bxc2 21. Re1 Be4 22. axb4 Bxb4 23. Bd2 Bxd2+ 24. Kxd2 Qg1 with a very decisive Black advantage.

Oct-19-04
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  patzer2: That guy Taylor has had a long chess career, from 1874 to 2003. Would be nice to be playing that well (or doing anything pleasant) at over 129 years of age.
Oct-19-04
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  kevin86: A Hobson's choice for black:12 ...♔f8 13 ♗h6# or 12...♔d8 13 ♘f7#

BTW-I was fooled by another double life story (like Taylor 1874-2003??) There was an actor named Paul Harvey-who was in many movies in the 1940s and 1950s. This IS NOT the Paul Harvey who does the news.

Oct-19-04
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  Gypsy: <patzer2> You may consider J Kozma vs Sliwa, 1967 for one of your thematic collections. (Just a prompt.)
Oct-19-04
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  ChessPraxis: NN played especially poorly today. Maybe he should get a chess coach.
Oct-19-04  Saruman: I found myself in this position vs troyesd3 as black on chessmaniac.com a while ago, try to find mate... White:b2,c2,Nb1,Kc1,Td1,Qe1,Bd3,Nh3,Rh1,g4,f7 Black:Rc8,a5,Nb4,Ne4,d5,e5,d6,Bb7,Qa2,Rh8,Kg7... Bd3 was white's last move.

-Qb3! Na3 (if Rd2 Nxd3+ Kd1 Nxb2+ Kc1 Rxc2+!) Na2+! Kb1 N4c3+ Ka1 Nc1!!. If white takes either knight Qa2#, if cxb3 Nxb3#. What remains is a queen sac on e5 and Bc4 and finally a rook check on g7 before black mates.

Oct-19-04
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  patzer2: <Gypsy> Thanks for the link to the very lively and fun game J Kozma vs Sliwa, 1967. I've added it to my demolition of pawn structure (sacrifice on h2/h7) collections.
Oct-19-04  klausewitz: The game Kozma vs Sliwa is really very funny. Thanks.
Oct-19-04
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  notyetagm: <Capturing removes the guard twice, destruction and deflection>.

The brilliant sequence 11 ♕xe7+!! ♘xe7 removes not one but <two> defenders of the f6-square: the defending Black bishop on e7 is destroyed (captured) and the defending Black knight on g8 is deflected to e7 (to get the Black king out of check). The result is that the f6-square is defenseless against invasion from the White knight on d5 and mate follows.

11 ♕xe7+!! ♘xe7 12 ♘f6+:
12 ... ♔d8 13 ♘xf7#
12 ... ♔f8 13 ♘h6#

Oct-19-04
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  notyetagm: That last line should read as follows:

12 ... ♔f8 13 ♗h6#

Oct-19-04  erikcu: <patzer2: That guy Taylor has had a long chess career, from 1874 to 2003.> You're right! the chess database shows Taylor playing at the turn of the 20th and 21st centuries. Maybe chess has some sort of effect on longevity. I also see that Taylor had a 40 year hiatus. Maybe, there is still hope for a Bobby Fischer comback in 2040.
Oct-20-04  sumant 9: How old actually NN is?
Oct-20-04  marekg248: <Willem Wallekers> Yes, but isn't g4 pawn worth protecting? It could make white's development difficult. I mean after your line black is OK, but white too.
Oct-20-04
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  Willem Wallekers: <marekg248:>
g4 pawn?
I looked at:
Pillsbury vs Maroczy, 1903
Oct-20-04  marekg248: <Willem Wallekers> I looked at Gunsberg vs Pillsbury, 1903 with 5.h3 played apparently to prevent 5...g4. Though I admit 4.e5 was a mistake.
Oct-20-04
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  notyetagm: For a great example of <CAPTURING REMOVES THE GUARD TWICE>, once by destruction and once by deflection, have a look at Tal's magnificent 20 ♕xc5!! in this game: Tal vs Neibult, 1991.
Oct-20-04  Deadly Pawn: Sorry if this is a stupid question but I am still learning.

Why can't he just move his king?

Oct-20-04
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  tpstar: <Deadly Pawn> Hello! Welcome to the group! Please don't hesitate to ask a question if you can't understand the solution, because other members will help you out. If you look back at <notyetagm>'s posts from 10/19, both winning lines are given for each possible King move. See you around.
Oct-20-04  Deadly Pawn: tpstar thanks for the help, looks like I have alot to learn!
Dec-20-06  Rubenus: <patzer2> See the game Bird/Dobell vs NN. I read in one of Hans Bouwmeester's books that black has no better defence and that the rook sac is sound.
Aug-28-07  frank124c: Very nice "Guard Removal" theme.
Dec-02-07
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  hesyrett: <patzer2> suggested <Black should play 10...d6! with a winning advantage> and goes on to give a line starting with 11 ♘xf7.  Better for White (after 10...d6) might be 11 ♔f2 with the idea of 11...dxe5 12 ♗xa6 (Δ ♘xc7+) and then I. 12...bxa6 13 ♘xc7+ ♔d7 14 ♘xa8 or II. 12...♗d6 13 ♗d3; in both resulting positions, Black has to worry about his ♕ getting trapped.
Jun-26-09
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  GrahamClayton: <greystar69>Doesn't 9....♗d6 get black back into the game, protecting c7 and threatening the knight on e5.

greystar69,
I had a look at 10.♘f6+ ♘f6 11.♕f6 ♖f8 12.d4, with the threat of 13.♗h6. 12..♗e5 13.♕e5+ ♔d8 14.♗g5+ f6 15.♗f6+ ♖f6 16.♕f6+ ♔e8 17.0-0-0. Can White checkmate before Black's extra piece comes into play?

Oct-07-09  WhiteRook48: white swindled him
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