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Harry Nelson Pillsbury vs Frank James Marshall
Blindfold simul (1894) (blindfold), Montreal CAN
King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit. Accepted (C31)  ·  0-1


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Nov-25-02  pawntificator: 26 Bxf5+ Kb8 27. g4 and the knight appears to be trapped
Nov-25-02  Cyphelium: Aha, ok, missed that. I guess black can try 27.-Rf8

28.Bf4? fails to 28.-Rxf5 of course.

28.Ke2 and now 28.-Rxf5 looks almost forced. 29.gxf5 cxd4 and black has some compensation.

Nov-25-02  drukenknight: we have two lines going at once (sorry if folks are getting confused) one is:

26 Bxf5+ Kb8 27. g4 Rf8 28 Bg5 (I think, its not set up so I may be messing it up)

the other line starts w/ 28 Ke2

Nov-25-02  pawntificator: 26 Bxf5+ Kb8 27. g4 Rf8 28 Bg5 is not good because 28...NxB, but I think 28 Ke2 secures the knight's fate.

26 exf e.p. Rxg4 27. hxg4 Ng3+ 28 Ke2?? RxK

26 exf e.p. Rxg4 27. hxg4 Ng3+ 28 Kf2 cxd4 and things do not look good for white still, maybe 29 c4 and a chance to hold on

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  Honza Cervenka: Pawntificator, what is wrong with 29.Kxg3 in your line 26. exf6 e.p.+ Rxg4 27. hxg4 Ng3+ 28 Kf2 cxd4? I think black has to play 28...Ne4+ instead of 28...cxd4. See my comment above.
Nov-28-02  pawntificator: Very nice, Honza! I missed the c1 bishop covering the rooks e3 square after Kxg3. Thank goodness there are other people on this site to correct chess blindness.

I had considered 28...Ne4+ but disregarded it because all I could see was a draw after Kf1 Ng3+ Kf2 over and over. Honza, if 28...Ne4+ 29 Ke2 why not 29...Nxc3 dbl+ or 29...Nxf6 disc+

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  Honza Cervenka: 29...Nf6+ 30.Kd1 doesn't seem to be too dangerous for white who is still up with material. After 29...Nxc3++ 30.Kf1! (30.Kd2 is bad for 30...Re2+) white gains an important tempo for consolidation of position, for example 30...Ne2 31.Qf5+ Qxf5 32.gxf5 Nxg1 33.Bh6 and white wins or 30...Ne4 31.Bf4 etc. with decisive advantage of white.
Nov-29-02  pawntificator: Very good. Honza you are an invaluable resource to this site! Do you see any possibilities for 28 Kf2 Re2+ 29 Kxg3 Bc7+

I can't see right now I have to run

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  Honza Cervenka: I don't see any promising continuation for black there. White can play 30.Bf4 or even 30.Kh4 without big fear. 30.Bf4 Bxf4+ 31.Kxf4 Rf2+ 32.Kg3 Rxf6 33.Rae1 is probably the best black's line which I have found and it seems to be absolutely hopeless for him.
Nov-29-02  pawntificator: So, white could have saved the game with 28. Kf2, is that what your saying? If only I had read your very first comment~!! :0
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  Honza Cervenka: I think he could save the game playing 28.Kf2 as I didn't find any forced winning continuation for black after that move. At first I thought even that white should win after 28.Kf2 but later I found quite satisfactory continuation for black after 28...Ne4+ 29.Ke2 which seems to hold balance at least (white has to be very careful after 29...cxd4). Of course, I don't know whether I'm not missing some improvement in my lines posted above. It is quite possible.
May-03-03  cinammon: Pillsbury could of played 28. Kf2 to keep him in the game.
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  Calli: 18. Kf2 looks like a draw after 27...Ng3+ 28.Kf2 Ne4+ 29.Kf1. But in the line given above 27...Ng3+ 28.Kf2 Ne4+ 29.Ke2? cxd4 30.cxd4 Nc5+ 31.Qe3 Qc4+ 32.Kf3 Qd5+ 33. Ke2 then 33...Ne4 kooks like a win because White's pawns fall one by one.
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  Honza Cervenka: Calli, all your line after 34.Qd3 seems to lead to the position achieved already after 27...Ng3+ 28.Kf2 Ne4+ 29.Ke2 cxd4 30.cxd4. Have you any better idea instead of 30...Nc5+?
May-10-04  capanegra: The only thing certain here is that 28.Qxg3?? was a blunder. However, Pillsbury could be forgiven if we consider that he was actually playing blindfold, and simultaneously with nine other boards.

<Honza> <after 27...Ng3+ 28.Kf2 Ne4+ 29.Ke2 cxd4 30.cxd4. Have you any better idea instead of 30...Nc5+?> How about 30Bxd4?

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  Calli: Oh my! You mean I didn't reply? Must have been busy a year ago and forgot about this game. Anyway I messed up the Kibitz too. I really meant to take the queen at the end. Honza is right I was going around in circles, so we can shorten the variation:

28.Kf2 Ne4+ 29.Ke2 cxd4 30.cxd4 Nc5+ 31.Qe3 Rxe3+ 32.Bxe3 Ne4 and I think White is lost i.e. 33.g5 Qb5+ 34.Kf3 Qf5+ 35.Ke2 Ng3+ 36.Kd1 Qg4+ 37.Kc1 Qe2

May-13-04  capanegra: <Calli>, with your line Black seems to have an easy won ending. But I insist: after 30Bxd4 White should have to abandon immediately.
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  Calli: capanegra, mi amigo en ajedrez, there is the wonderful 31.f7!

If 28.Kf2 Ne4+ 29.Ke2 cxd4 30.cxd4 Bxd4 then 31.f7! Qxf7 32.Qxd4

May-13-04  capanegra: Cierto mi amigo, 31.f7! es un hermoso recurso que no haba visto. Gracias! :)

So, it should have been a draw by perpetual check (28.Kf2 Ne4+ 29.Kf1 Ng3+ etc.)?

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  Calli: Yes, a draw. And even Bxd4 may be drawn because after

28.Kf2 Ne4+ 29.Ke2 cxd4 30.cxd4 Bxd4 31.f7 Qxf7 32.Qxd4 Ng3+ 33.Kd1 Rd8 34.Qxd8+ Kxd8 35.Bg5+ Kd7 It is difficult for White to coordinate his pieces with his king so exposed.

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  sergeidave: For an instant I thought: "Epaulette Mate". I know this is not epaulette, but it got me for a second, it gives the same impression...
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  sergeidave: I mean, it gives a similar impression, lol... nevermind...
Feb-02-14  zavariz: Bright !! Marshall has always a good denouement. Much to learn from him.
Feb-02-14  Granny O Doul: Aha, BFX="blindold exhibition". Not "Bahraini Financial Exchange".
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  Jean Defuse: ...

From a 12-board blindfold exhibition (2 June 1894). Pillsbury scored +8 =0 -4.


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