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|Dec-14-03|| ||Shadout Mapes: The arguement on what a sacrifice is has always differed from person to person. I'd consider this a sacrifice, just because he doesn't get material equality immiediatly, it's a posiitonal thing (which is what JC does best). But then in the famous Botvinnik - Capablanca game, I have trouble with people saying Botvinnik sacrificed "two pieces" when the knight sac won the piece back with a simple fork a move later. I guess it depends on the grandeur.|
I'm afraid I just can't accept ughaibu's definition of sacrifice. Even taken in it's literal form (sacrificing virgins to the sun, one of my favorite pastimes), you still give something up while expecting something in return.
|Feb-26-05|| ||InspiredByMorphy: Black should have fought fire with fire and sacrificed the queen right back with 11. ...Qxf6! of course white can still win a pawn after 12.exf6 Be4 13.Bxg5 but black holds a positional advantage after 13. ...Rg8 14.h4 Bd6 (threatening 15. ...Bg3+) black now having 4 developed pieces to whites one. White cant castle queenside because of the strongly posted black bishop on e4 and therefore it appears the white king would be stuck in the center. It would have been interesting to see Capas treatment of 11. ...Qxf6! |
|Mar-01-05|| ||beatgiant: <InspiredByMorphy>
11...Qxf6 is an interesting try.
<White cant castle queenside because of the strongly posted black bishop on e4 and therefore it appears the white king would be stuck in the center.>
I think White can and would castle queenside after 11...Qxf6 12. exf6 Be4 13. Bxg5 Rg8 14. h4 Bd6 15. 0-0-0! If then 15...Rxg5 16. hxg5 Bf4+ 17. Rd2 Bxg5 18. Rxh5 keeps the material advantage. Otherwise, White can neutralize the Black bishop on e4 by playing Nf3 followed by Bd3 or Nd2, and then try to take advantage of the extra pawn.
|Mar-01-05|| ||beatgiant: <Lawrence>
<Chase blew the game with 23.....Qh7 instead of Kd7.>
I think it is already too later, since after 23...Kd7 24. Bxd5 followed by Bxf7 and pushing the e-pawn, White still looks winning.
|Mar-01-05|| ||beatgiant: <Calli>
<I don't understand 20...b6. c6 at some point looks more solid.> Move 20 also looks a little late for Black, for example 20...c6 21. c4! opens a good attack in the center and queenside.
|Mar-04-05|| ||InspiredByMorphy: <beatgiant> Thanks. Your correct. Whites queen sac is more sound than I thought. |
|Aug-16-05|| ||paladin at large: David Hooper felt that the queen sacrifice should rank among the best ever made. It certainly impressed the young Irving Chernev, who was on hand, and asked Capablanca if it were sound, right after Capa made it. Capa answered "Wait and see". |
The game is all the more astounding for being a simul.
|Aug-16-05|| ||mack: Blimey, why have I never seen this game before?|
|Aug-16-05|| ||WMD: Maybe Alekhine used his malign influence to suppress it in the hope of tarnishing Capablanca's genius.|
|Feb-03-07|| ||positionalgenius: Impressive game from capablanca.|
|Aug-30-07|| ||sanyas: The immortal simultaneous game, I think.|
|Aug-30-07|| ||RookFile: I can't believe this is sound, and that black doesn't have some way to get an advantage or win this.|
|Aug-30-07|| ||gmgomes: it is not a typical Capa game|
|Aug-30-07|| ||paladin at large: No, it is not a typical Capa game. Whatever the mix of calculation and intuition, Capa could see that he quickly gains two minor pieces and a pawn for his queen, plus excellent position.|
|Dec-30-08|| ||Garech: Well everyone, whatever way you look at it, it was a great game from Capablanca ... I don't think many people would have given up the queen in that situation, it's a credit to his massive skill that he did ... I really think this should be a game of the day in the future.|
|Dec-30-08|| ||sleepyirv: <Garech> It certainly has good pun potential.|
|Jan-25-09|| ||WhiteRook48: great way how White Chases the Queen|
|Mar-01-09|| ||WhiteRook48: he was Chased!!|
|May-19-10|| ||mhelshou: I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that 22. Bf3 was a bad mistake that Black could have exploited to his advantage but didn't.|
|Sep-27-11|| ||DrMAL: I don't play King's Gambit real often but this game has a fascinating opening. 9.Nd2 allows 9...Bg4 to force 10.Nxe4 but it's an excellent move. The counter-sac 11...Qxf6 was better than 11...Ke7 after this move Cappy has all the fun. Difficult to believe this was a simul game his intuition was amazingly fast!|
|Sep-28-11|| ||SChesshevsky: This was a fascinating opening.
Do you think Capablanca had seen this line before? It seems pretty aggressive to judge the two Bishops, a serious advantage in space and multiple Black weak spots much better versus the Queen OTB.
I wonder if he would have played the line against a more established player?
|Sep-29-11|| ||DrMAL: <SChesshevsky> Great name you picked LOL...good questions too. I assumed he was not familiar with it, as 7...g5 was unusual even if so strong (best?). It's only speculation but I think he would have played it (basically, 9.Nd2 since 9...Bg4 forces 10.Nxe4) against anyone, it has good winning chances. Maybe with a top level player he'd expect counter-sac 11...Qxf6 which then looks drawish that's the only factor against, cheers.|
|Sep-29-11|| ||Shams: <SChesshevsky>
Capablanca had himself played the Breyer Gambit before:
Capablanca vs E S Maddock, 1922
As for the flashy sac shown here (completely sound by the way), he had probably seen this Spielmann game or another like it:
Spielmann vs J Moeller, 1920
|Sep-29-11|| ||DrMAL: Thanx <Shams> this explains to me why he could have played 9.Nd2 in a simul so quickly. From Spielmann vs J Moeller, 1920 game no doubt he was already familiar with it.|
|Nov-17-11|| ||OhioChessFan: I realize it was just a simul, but I can't believe Capa missed 12. Bxg5|
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