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Igor Efimov vs David Bronstein
Kiev URS 1941  ·  King's Gambit: Accepted. Schallop Defense (C34)  ·  0-1


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Dec-27-06
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  ahmadov: You do not need to be Bronstein to find this. Quite easy to find. (Hope I will be able to say this for tomorrow's puzzle as well.)
Dec-27-06   Soltari: wow I found this one completely in about 30 seconds I guess, my quickest wednesday ever.
Dec-27-06   Whitehat1963: Yeah, my quickest Wed. ever, as well. Hate to admit it, but I usually don't get the Wed. puzzles at all.
Dec-27-06   Fisheremon: <Sneaky: White missed his chance on move seven. 7. Bxf7!? Kxf7 8. Nxe5+ Kg8 9. Qxh5 and White's got a good game IMHO.> Yeah, with an equal game. Also a mistake 9. Bxe6 (better 9. Nf3) and a blunder 10. Kg1 (better hxg3).
Dec-27-06   Eurotrash: Yup, a quick wednesday one.
Dec-27-06
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  kevin86: An easy Wednesday puzzle-a forced mate in four! This is made even easier in that I've seen the game before-though it must have been about thirty years ago.
Dec-27-06   schnarre: That was a nasty way to be defeated.
Dec-27-06
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  YouRang: I found it pretty rapidly once I considered the vulnerability of the white king to mate threats from the bishop (along a7-g1 diagonal) and the queen (Qe1#). I also noticed that the black knight was positioned to give check (an important point if we want to threaten Qe1#).

Putting the pieces together is easy: (1) deflect the queen from defending e1 with the bishop checks, then use the clearance sac Ne2+ (winning the queen with Qe1# mate threat).

Dec-27-06
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  aragorn69: <TrueBlue: I don't want to write that I saw it in 10 seconds because some people may not like it>

Well, you can brag about it, but I actually saw it in less than <two seconds>. And - in this case - there are no tricky side variations! ;-))

Dec-27-06
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  mckmck: I got it. This is the second puzzle i solved. Simple.
Dec-27-06
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  playground player: Gee, got all the moves right away. Am I turning into David Bronstein, you think?
Dec-27-06   unclewalter: i'm not a great player, but i would have had to think something was up when david bronstein plays Be6...
Dec-27-06   haha: Yay!!!

I got this one in 10 secs.

So that means it's simple. :P

Dec-27-06   Themofro: A nice puzzle although not that hard for a Wednesday. Would have been interesting to see how Bronstein would have fared if white HAD played 7. Bxf7. Nice mate in four though by Bronstein, not that hard, but nice.
Dec-27-06   kbaumen: This was quick for me. 10 seconds or something. Pretty Tuesdayish, nevertheless, a nice puzzle.

<Themofro: A nice puzzle although not that hard for a Wednesday. Would have been interesting to see how Bronstein would have fared if white HAD played 7. Bxf7. Nice mate in four though by Bronstein, not that hard, but nice.>

Not really a mate, white can still give up his queen. :D

Dec-27-06   Themofro: True, but would still be hopelessly lost of course.
Dec-27-06
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  aazqua: Put me down for about 4 seconds. There aren't a whole lot of options here and it's clear where the pieces will have to go.
Dec-27-06   laskereshevsky: laskereshevsky: HELLO
From the BRONSTEIN's book " THE SOURCER APPRENDIST" ( the translaction is mine from a french edition...sorry for the possibles mistake). BRONSTEIN give here he's final comment about a game **BRONSTEIN-PALMIOTTO** played in the 1958 chess olympic games:

<The game was played in the URSS-ITALY match. Cause im a follower of the famous italian classic school, i managed to create an uncompromise attack with my pawns, to demonstrate that even in a "half-open" game is possible to create a combinative style attack.

Several years after, In the 1990 i was guested to partecipate in a ROME tournament. Absolutly unexpected, at least for me, also BOTVINNIK whose there. I asked to the organizers if he was in the player-list. "NO," they answered me, " he's here to receive the GIOACCHINO GREGO PRICE." I asked if he had ever played a game in the classical italian's schoole style...."NO," they answered, "But in one of he's books he wrote that GRECO was a great player...."

Five years far from, im still very amused by this ingenuousness, and im ask to myself if those italians organizers had ever seen one of my games!>

WELL.... for a fate of the destiny....I WAS THERE WHEN BRONSTEIN RAISED UP HE'S GLANGE FROM THE CHESS BORDER AND SAW BOTVINNIK!!!!!......

If you BRONSTEIN's fans (of course, too x me he was a giant...) like it, in a future post, i will give my evidence. Like FORREST GUMP...." I NEED A LITTLE NAP" ......GOOD NIGHT

Dec-27-06   nimzo knight: GOT IT !!
Dec-27-06   laskereshevsky: P.S. excuse me, but x to be honest i had forget a part of the BRONSTEIN's speach. Posted it between < combinative style attack> and <several years after>

:<YES, THE ITALIAN CLASSIC SCHOOL's ITS REALLY IMMORTAL!>...I apologize to all the italians, and all the italian classic school's fan...

Dec-27-06   ALEXIN: Not to much difficult, I think.
Aug-07-08   artspec: No point in bothering to say how long it took to find it. It's too simple to any player of intermediate level and above.
Aug-28-08   dwavechess: Bronstein concur with rybka 2.3.2 at 14 ply in 9/12 moves.
Sep-11-08   dwavechess: With Rybka 3 w32 at 3 minutes per move 10/12 83! for Bronstein, perfect combination from move 7.
Apr-09-09   WhiteRook48: nice knight fork
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