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|Aug-03-10|| ||Check It Out: This reminds me of the earliest games I ever looked at. |
14. Qd8+ Kxd8
15. Bg5+ Ke8
|Aug-03-10|| ||drnooo: The odd thing here is how truly strong
Kolish was, he might even have been a
better player than either Reti or Tartakower. He was about the only one
who ever challenged Morphy, didn't run
from him. Maybe he just was underestimating his opponent here, but his percentage of wins is up there
with the absolute best.
|Aug-03-10|| ||Check It Out: BTW, in chess notation would you put a ++ to indicate the double check? And while I'm at it, no one ever responded at the cafe about this one: can you promote your pawn to an opponent's piece? TIA|
|Aug-03-10|| ||cjgone: Lol overlooked this and went with the queen pin. That's what I get for not looking farther in. :[|
|Aug-03-10|| ||David2009: <Check It Out:> FIDE Chess Rule 3.4(e): When a pawn reaches the rank furthest from its starting position it must be exchanged as part of the same move for a queen, rook, bishop or knight of the same colour.|
White to play and mate in one:
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When composed two hundred years ago this problem was perfectly legal: now there is no solution.
FIDE rule E11 (re algebraic notation) also stipulates ++ : checkmate. In the old notation, ++ meant 'double check' and #, checkmate, mat, mate etc were all used for checkmate. Personally, I regret this change: but these are the rules.
|Aug-03-10|| ||RandomVisitor: After 5...Bb4 white might have an improvement:
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<[+0.43] d=24 6.Be2> Qxe4 7.Ndb5 Bxc3+ 8.bxc3 Kd8 9.0-0 Nf6 10.Bg5 d6 11.Bxf6+ gxf6 12.Bf3 Qf4 13.g3 Qf5 14.Nd4 Nxd4 15.cxd4 Re8 16.c4 c6 17.c5 d5 18.Rb1 Kc7 19.Rb2 h6 20.Bg2
|Aug-03-10|| ||Once: <David2009> Really enjoyed your 200 year old puzzle. b8=black knight checkmate!|
It sort of reminds me of a joke that doesn't work any more ...
Did you hear about the East German pole vault champion? He's now the West German pole vault champion.
|Aug-03-10|| ||Eggman: Never heard of Maczuski. 12.f4! is a classy riposte.|
Note that this game predates the famous Reti vs Tartakower, 1910 by nearly half a century, and it could be preferred for that reason alone and also because the more famous game is suspected of having been prearranged.
|Aug-03-10|| ||wals: 4...Qh4.+0.36. Better,Nf6,+0.06.
6.Qd3. -0.30 Better, Be2, +0.36.
11.Qg5+. +2.66. Better, Nxc3, -0.31
courtesy of Rybka 3 1-cpu..
|Aug-03-10|| ||Check It Out: <David2009> Thanks for the answer and the cool puzzle.|
<Once> that cracked me up :)
|Aug-03-10|| ||thegoodanarchist: <FrogC: One of those themes that, if you're an experienced chessplayer, just leaps out at you. Reti vs Tartakower>|
Thanks, Frog. I remember seeing a combo like this one and I knew it was from different players than these. I just couldn't think of who they were.
|Aug-03-10|| ||Nullifidian: I recognized the pattern at once:
14. ♕d8+ ♔xd8 15. ♗g5++ ♔e8 16.♖d8#
|Aug-03-10|| ||LIFE Master AJ: 14.Qd8+!, KxQ/d8▢; 15.Bg5+ (double-check) 15...Ke8;▢ (This is the only legal move!) 16.Rd8#. |
If you have never seen this tactical motif before, then this is a real spectacular sacrifice ... however, if you have seen it, it becomes a nothing more than a tired, trite little trap.
Below is an excerpt from one of my web pages ... ... ...
<<One of the more famous short games between two players of undoubted GM strength.>
<(This is also one of <the most <famous <"shorts">> of all time,> according to several sources - like Coles and Chernev.)>
<<<Richard Reti - Savielly G. Tartakower
1. e4, c6; 2. d4, d5; 3. Nc3, dxe4; 4. NxP/e4, Nf6;
5. Qd3!?, e5?!; 6. d4xe5, Qa5+; 7. Bd2!!, Qxe5;
8. 0-0-0!, NxN/e5; 8...Qxe5?; 9. Re1,
Black has won a piece. But the price he now pays is too high!
9. Qd8+!!, KxQ/d8; 10. Bg5+, Black Resigns. (1-0)>
<(White's tenth move was a <DOUBLE-CHECK,> one of the most devastating weapons in all of chess.)>
If 10...Kc7; 11. Bd8 mate. Or 10...Ke8; 11. Rd8#
One of the prettiest and most famous of all miniature games.>
(After a survey in a Russian magazine, this game was chosen as the best, well-known miniature.)
(I would definitely include this game in my list, "The Ten Best Miniatures.")
(This is Game # 44 on page no. 18 of Chernev's book, "1001 Best, Short Games of Chess.") >
See my web page, http://www.ajschess.com/lifemastera....
|Aug-03-10|| ||UnsoundHero: Back around the year 1978, I had a friend who owned a chess computer called "Boris". It took Boris more than 3 hours to discover the mate-in-three from the Reti-Tartakower game. How times have changed. Nowadays, the strongest computers can hold their own, or better, against top-flite Grandmasters.|
|Aug-04-10|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Hey! I remember BORIS!!! I owned a copy of that little box. (You could give it all night, and it could not solve a simple mate in three!)|
I directed an ALABAMA STATE CHAMPIONSHIP ... (In think it was 1977, the original director got sick and had to be replaced at the very last moment.) ... Robert Jurjevich won BOTH the open and the High School section ... playing in both sections at once!!!!
---> Boris played in this event ... losing ALL of its games to humans!!!
One for Ripley's, BELIEVE IT ... OR NOT!
|Aug-04-10|| ||TheaN: Tuesday 3 August 2010
The Reti Pattern.
To be honest I can put all kinds of summaries on this position, but it's the best known chess combination around the globe I'd say. White wins with:
<14.Qd8†! Kxd8 15.Bg5†† Ke8 16.Rd8‡ 1-0> where the Bg5†† is best known. Meh, letdown. 3/3.
|Aug-04-10|| ||C4gambit: thanks <Once>|
|Aug-04-10|| ||turbo231: Missed it. I had my chance to solve a puzzle this week yesterday and blew it. I really like this puzzle it looks like a mate in one when black resigned. These puzzles are getting harder for me because of my medical condition. As I said before I had my best chance yesterday to solve one puzzle this week.|
This puzzle demonstrates just how important castling is. The sooner the better in most cases.
|Dec-03-10|| ||Llawdogg: I must admit that Ignatz is a great name.|
|Nov-09-11|| ||Nightsurfer: This game here <L Maczuski vs I Von Kolisch> is the blueprint of that final phase of the somewhat younger game Reti vs Tartakower, 1910 - the latter (knowingly or unknowingly) becoming the blueprint with regard to the composition of several cases of more or less similar final attacks, just compare the most recent game M Amini vs R Gralla, 2010 that has been played 100 (!) years after Reti vs Tartakower, 1910 and 146 years after this game here <L Maczuski vs I Von Kolisch> that has been put on the board in 1864 at a rather obscure place called "Parijs" (?!?!?) or maybe the shining "Paris" (??!!??!!) ...|
|Apr-17-12|| ||Llawdogg: Fantastic queen sacrifice, discount double check, and checkmate.|
|Jun-12-13|| ||Cibator: Though it does anticipate the famous denouement of Reti-Tartakower, insofar as a Q-sac at d8 allows a subsequent double-check, this game doesn't have the attractive "two-way" finish of the other, where either the bishop or the rook delivers the mate, according to how Black replies.|
Another game that does feature the two-way version is Dutch vs J N Sugden, 1964.
|Mar-25-15|| ||fredthebear: This game features White castling queenside and a double discovered check on the open queen's file ala Reti's Mate.|
Quick comments by Reshevsky:
4...Q-R5? Bringing out the queen at the early stage of the game is against one of the principles of good development. Correct would have been 4...N-B3 5.N-QB3 B-N5 to be followed by 0-0.
6.Q-Q3 Black was threatening to win the KP by playing 6...QxKP+ to be followed by 0-0.
8...BxN? Black embarked on a plan to win a pawn, which was the beginning of his troubles. 8...0-0 was called for.
9...NxP? 9...0-0 would have been fair.
10.Q-Q4! Protects the KBP and prevents Black from castling or mate follows.
13.B-Q2! A beautiful move, which prepares for the combination to follow.
15.B-N5++ Discovered double check is a powerful move.
Black's downfall was due to poor development -- he neglected to castle early. Note that Black's queen moved six times in this game.
|Feb-28-17|| ||zanzibar: Reichhelm gives this with the mating move finish in <The Literary Digest, Volume 21 (1900), p542>.|
|Feb-28-17|| ||zanzibar: Actually, Reichhelm comments after 13...Qg4:
<"At this point Kolisch was amazed to find the other man forced mate in three moves, as follows:" ...>
Which suggests Maczuski announced the forced mate at that point in the game.
Anybody know the original source for this game?
(And should a Reti Mate really be called a Maczuski mate?)
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