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|Jan-02-06|| ||Gantastic: The game aside, this must be one of CG.com's best puns yet. Bravo.|
|Jan-02-06|| ||blingice: Um, is the pun supposed to look like something?|
|Jan-02-06|| ||twinlark: Middle games zugzwangs are so rare. Does anyone know of any besides this one and Nimzovich-Samisch?|
|Jan-02-06|| ||ughaibu: Twinlark: There are several. I think someone made a zugzwang collection, presumably there's a link to it on the Nimzowitch-Saemisch game.|
|Jan-02-06|| ||Benzol: <twinlark>, <iron maiden> has a game collections of zugzwangs.|
|Jan-02-06|| ||iron maiden: It was me: Game Collection: Zugzwang!. I hadn't yet added this one though.|
|Jan-02-06|| ||twinlark: Thanks guys. Much obliged.|
|Jan-02-06|| ||fligorna: The old Lion - Viktor! Always an example for imitation!|
|Jan-02-06|| ||prinsallan: The ending by Korchnoi is as nice as the pun - almost.|
|Jan-02-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: If anyone could please explain the pun to me, I would be much obliged!|
p.s.: If anyone starts wondering, I refer you to my avatar. :)
p.p.s.: Excellent game!
|Jan-02-06|| ||Larsker: <If anyone could please explain the pun to me> I'm not sure but Rca1 Viktor looks like "Real victor".|
|Jan-02-06|| ||Bobwhoosta: <EmperorAthualpa: The pun!?!?>|
I think it has something to do with the company RCA, which makes electronics like televisions. However, I don't know of a Viktor model, so I'm halfway sure I'm wrong here.
|Jan-02-06|| ||lentil: <Bobwhoosta> you're correct. when i was a kid RCA had a record player called a Victor. (possibly a play on the older wind-up "Victrola".) there was a longstanding ad campaign for the "RCA Victor". Might have featured the dog with his ear cocked at a trumpet speaker with the caption: "His master's voice".|
And since Victor played Rca1....
|Jan-02-06|| ||sitzkrieg: Would this game be an example of middlegame zugzwang or not?
Geller vs Kurajica, 1977|
|Jan-02-06|| ||blingice: And CG predicted people under age 50 were going to understand that?!|
|Jan-02-06|| ||THE pawn: <blingice> I understood the pun as much as a dog would understand a physics exam.|
|Jan-02-06|| ||WannaBe: The dog, featured in the RCA print ads was named 'Nipper'. =)|
|Jan-02-06|| ||twinlark: <sitzkrieg> I wouldn't thinks so. Black was simply outplayed. Zugzwang essentially means that the position is basically ok except for the fact that the player has to make a move. Any move hey make will ruin their position.|
It's common in endgames which have very few pieces, but not so common in the middle game, especially when the Queen is still on the board. Best example of middle game zugzwang is Nimzovich-Samisch which you can get to from <iron maiden>'s link 8 posts before yours. Game is interesting enough but just skip straight to the end position.
|Jan-02-06|| ||kevin86: This is a rare game where the center is very dormant-white attacks along the wings and tears blacks position to bits. He dominates along the a-file,then breaks through on the king side.|
|Jan-02-06|| ||Granite: <twinlark: Zugzwang essentially means ..... Any move hey make will ruin their position.>|
Black is in Zugzwang on move one!! Quick resign!! :P
|Jan-02-06|| ||Chopin: This is a very nice game- I like the final position.|
|Jan-02-06|| ||sitzkrieg: <twinlark> thanks|
|Jan-03-06|| ||twinlark: <sitkrieg> you're welcome.|
|Jan-03-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: <Bobwhoosta> <lentil> Thank you for your explanation.|
Funny, I've never heard of the brand RCA. They probably don't produce electronics for the European market.
Interestingly enough, RCA Victor also appears to be a record label!
RCA Victor has signed artists such as Cirque du Soleil, Marianne Faithfull, Leo Kottke and the Alan Parsons Project.
|Jan-11-06|| ||prinsallan: Also, 35 Rca1 is the clencher.|
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