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Jun-17-05
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| ajile: Korchnoi is a good player. A VERY good player. lol |
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| Mar-09-06 |
| LluviaSean: How can you lose with such a deep queenside bind??? |
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| Mar-09-06 |
| Jim Bartle: Shirov sort of admits he threw in 31...Re4 because he knew his position was bad and he needed to muddy the waters. |
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| Apr-24-06 |
| Eggman: This game reminds of Shirov vs M Bluvshtein, 2005, in which Shirov as White was the victim. |
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| May-14-06 |
| tun20000: what if white move 31. Rh3,.... I think white should have win. |
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May-15-06
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| pawn to QB4: I guess the reply's 31...Rg6 threat 32.Qxh3 Bxh3 33.Nh2#; 32.Rxh2 Nxh2+ 33.Kg1 Nf3+ and Nxd2 winning the exchange. Maybe one of the stronger players will take a moment off kibitzing MTel to say for sure. |
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May-16-09
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| wanabe2000: Maybe the GOTD pun should be "Take this rook and Shirov it" |
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May-16-09
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| Whack8888: 6. c5 is not weak but it does have inherent weaknesses, I think this is a better way to phrase it than to say it is inherently weak, as it also has some inherent strengths to it as well |
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| May-16-09 |
| newzild: Man, this is a cracking good game. Shirov is really something when he gets the imagination going. |
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May-16-09
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| WannaBe: It is great, to read the comments from seven (almost) years ago, from memnbers back then, (Yes, <Sneaky>, you are recognized!!) and see how far, CG.com have progressed! (Shamelessly, at the same time, I was there along the way... albeit, not as early as others... =) |
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| May-16-09 |
| remolino: If
31. Rh3, then 31...Rg6, following with:
32. Rxh2, 32...Nxh2
33. Kg1, 33...Nf3+
winning back the queen and ahead by an exchange |
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| May-16-09 |
| NARC: Patzer2 suggests 40. b8=Q Qxb8 41. Rf2, I think 41. Bh3 also works. |
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| May-16-09 |
| zatara: You get an amazing and fascinating game and you have all the morants to analyze it with computers trying to destroy all the beauty in it!These kramnik fans..really pissing me of..get a life! |
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| May-16-09 |
| mistreaver: What happens on 32fxd5?
And why not 34c7? |
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| May-16-09 |
| WhiteRook48: don't get it |
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May-16-09
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| kevin86: White's pawn chain and advanced soldiers are no match for the sweeping queen of black's. Note:for one move,white had two queens but ends with none. |
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May-16-09
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| Primoman: I dont get it, why can't white just take the rook or the knight on move 32? also, how about 36: Rc8? This game is deeper than most mere mortals can understand. |
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| May-16-09 |
| zzzzzzzzzzzz: what is this |
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| May-16-09 |
| tivrfoa: <Primoman> Agree. But fxg4 or fxe4 certainly would bring troubles for white:
32. fxg4??? Rxf4+ 33. Bf3?? (Rf3??) (Ke1??)
32. fxe4??? fxe4 33. Bxe4?? (Nxe4??)(Rh3??)
I'm not sure about Nxe4, but I think black would be a little better.
32. Nxe4?! fxe4 33. Rc3 Rxf4 34. Ke1 Qg1+ 35. Ke2 Qxg2+ 36. Kd1 Qxd2+ 37. Kxd2 exf3 38. Rf1 f2 |
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| May-16-09 |
| Chess4Life99: As dumb as my question sounds, why did white resign? |
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| May-16-09 |
| tivrfoa: <Chess4Life99>
After: 44. Rgg3 Qxb7 45. Rxf5
1 - black has 4 paws against only two by white;
2 - black's king has a good defense;
3 - white is limited in movements, because black can fork king and rook, like:
45. ... Qb5 46. Ra3 Qb2+ |
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May-16-09
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| zanshin: <Primoman: I dont get it, why can't white just take the rook or the knight on move 32? also, how about 36: Rc8?> Good questions that I cannot answer without engine assistance. 
click for larger viewIf Kramnik takes the Rook:
32.fxe4 fxe4
click for larger viewKramnik gives back the Rook with 33.Ne2. Trying to save the Rook with 33.Rh3 results in 33...Rxf4+ and he gives up his Queen or gets mated. If Kramnik takes the Knight with 32.fxg4:
click for larger viewShirov plays 32...Rxf4+ immediately and Kramnik has the same problems as cited above. 
click for larger view |
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May-16-09
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| zanshin: Last point about 36.Rc8:
click for larger view36.b8Q is a mistake (36.Rb3! +3.97). Rc8 evaluates at 0.00. I played the line out to perpetual check. |
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| May-16-09 |
| zzzzzzzzzzzz: who's Shirov?
Is he strong?
what's his rating?
is he a FM,IM,GM,IGM,WGM?
how do you spell his name? |
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| May-16-09 |
| zzzzzzzzzzzz: who's Kramnik?
is he strong?
what's his rating?
is he a FM,IM,GM,IGM,WGM?
how do you spell his name? |
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