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| Nov-24-03 |
| raylopez99: Thanks Brian! Ciocaltea is another one of my favorite players--because for some reason he always seems to lose playing (so it seems) spectacularly weak or anti-positional moves! Love him! He obviously was a very strong GM and lost to even stronger GMs, but his moves in some games remind me of my patzer moves! |
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Jun-27-04
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| patzer2: Christiansen's 14...Rxg2+!! initiates a combination to demolish the Black King's pawn structure to facilitate a Kingside attack. This move(14...Rxg2+!!)is the answer to problem number 1663 in Chess Informant's "Encyclopedia of Chess Middle Games/Combinations." Black's followup 18...Qxe3!! is a pseudo sacrifice worth analysing. After 18...Qxe3!!, if White takes the bait with 19. fxe3, then play would continue 19...Bxe3! 20. Rf2 Rxf2 (with the decisive threat 21...Rf1#). |
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| Jul-11-04 |
| seoulmama: Actually, Rxg2+ is not a good move, as 19.Bxf7+ refutes the whole thing. I too am a fan of Christiansen's, but he readily admits himself that this game is a flawed one. |
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| Jul-11-04 |
| samvega: <seoulmama> could you please explain the refutation w/ 19.Bxf7+? (is it eg 19.Bxf7+ Kxf7 20.Qh5+, then 21.Rad1 ?) And what about Brian's suggestion of 14.Bd3 instead of 14.Bc4? |
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| Jul-12-04 |
| seoulmama: samvega, 19.Bxf7+ Kxf7?? 20.fxe3 Bxe3+ 21.Rf2 Rxf2 22.Qb3+ winning, or 19... Kf8 20.Qh5 Qg5+ 21.Qxg5 Bxg5 22.Bb3 with a much better position for White. |
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Jul-25-04
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| patzer2: <seoulmama> Thanks for sharing this bust of a Chess Informant middle game/combination problem. The possibility 19. Bxf7+!! was a brilliant defensive stroke I completely missed. |
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| Aug-14-04 |
| notsodeepthought: Really neat combination, though I wonder whether the boring 14 ... Qf3 might not be sufficient to win. Just a thought (here it's too late in the day for analysis). |
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| Aug-14-04 |
| themindset: 14...Qf3 is the computer move, with a definite advantage to black |
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| Aug-14-04 |
| Helloween: Today's puzzle is flawed, since 14...Rxg2?! doesn't win by any means, however, there is a forced win! After 14...Rxg2?!+ 15.Kxg2 Bh3+ 16.Kg1 Qf3 17.Ne3 Bh6 18.Qd1 Qxe3 19.Bxf7+! Kf8 20.Qh5 Qg5+ 21.Qxg5 Bxg5 22.Bb3 Rc3 the game looks to be unclear, but probably  despite Black's grip on the position. Another idea which doesn't quite work is to remove White's light-squared monster: 14...Rxc4?! 15.Qxc4 Qf3(15...Rxg2? 16.Kxg2 Bh3+ 17.Kg1 Qf3 18.Ne3 Bh6 19.Qc2!! and White wins) 16.g3 Bh3 17.Qb5+ Kd8 18.Ne3 Bh6 19.Qxb7 Rxg3+ 20.hxg3 Bxe3 21.Qb8+ Bc8 22.fxe3 Qxg3+ with a draw. It seems to me that Black can win with two moves:
14...Bh3!, which leads to 15.Ne3(15.g3 transposes to 14...Qf3, given below) 15...Bxg2 16.Bxf7+ (16.Nxg2 Qf3 17.Bxf7+ Kxf7 18.Qd5+ e6 with mate)16...Kxf7 17.Qd5+ e6 18.Qh5+ Ke7 19.Nxg2 Rg5! 20.Qxh7+ Bg7 21.h4 Qh3 22.hxg5 Qxh7  , winning the White Queen. Black also wins with the move I chose, 14...Qf3!, leading to 15.g3 Bh3 16.Ne3 Bh6 17.Qd1 Qxd1 18.Bb5+ Kf8 19.Rfxd1 Bxe3 20.fxe3 h5, which is winning for Black. Congratulate yourself for solving this one correctly only if you saw 14...Qf3! or 14...Bh3! as well as the key idea of Bh6 to remove the defender of the g2-square after Ne3. |
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Aug-14-04
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| chessgames.com: A fascinating bust. We'll stick crafty on it, but it does seem that 19.Bxf7+!! gets White off the hook. <Congratulate yourself for solving this one correctly only if you saw 14...Qf3! or 14...Bh3!> We disagree. If you were thinking along the same lines as GM Christiansen with 14...Rxg2+!? you deserve at least half credit. |
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Aug-14-04
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| crafty: 19.  xf7+  d8 20.  h5 g5+ 21. xg5 xg5 22. b3  c3 = (eval -0.26; depth 16 ply; 1000M nodes) |
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| Aug-14-04 |
| Helloween: <We disagree. If you were thinking along the same lines as GM Christiansen with 14...Rxg2+!? you deserve at least half credit.> I think the main idea in this puzzle, even in the faulty 14...Rxg2+?!, is the Bf8-h6 maneouever after the Knight comes to e3. |
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| Aug-14-04 |
| greystar69: I saw the same Qf3 line as Helloween, but looking at all the subsequent analysis, the game doesn't seem as clear cut any more! Just one question I can't fathom the answer too - why in crafty's line can't black play 19.... Kxf7? |
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Aug-14-04
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| kevin86: That's how great this game really is! An expert (grandmaster) plays what we all think is a brilliant move-then-after an examination by several eyes-machine and human-the brilliancy is not as great as we thought so. Then again-maybe the escape was brilliant also. |
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Aug-14-04
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| patzer2: Expanding on <Helloween>'s 14...Qf3! solution, after 15. Ne6 Bh6! there are some interesting side variations that may be worth noting. If 14...Qf3! <15. Ne6>, then Black wins with 15...Bh6! <the main idea in the puzzle> 16. Qd1 Be6!
17. Qd1 [17. Bb5+ Kf8 18. Qd1 Qxe3! (not 18...fxe3? 19. Rgxg2+ Kh1 20. Rxh2+ Kg1 21. Rcg2#) 19. g3 Qc3 ; 17. Qxb7 Rxc4 ; 17. Kh1 Rxg2+ 18. Kh1 Bxd5 ) 17...Qxd1! 18. Bb5+ (18. Raxd1 Bxe3 ; 18. Nxd1 Rxc4 ] 18...Kf8 19. Nxd1 Bh3 20. g3 Bxf1 . Helloween, after <14...Qf3 15.g3 Bh3 16.Ne3 Bh6 17.Qd1 Qxd1 18.Bb5+>, I like 18...Kd8 <19.Rfxd1 Bxe3 20.fxe3> 20...Rg2+! 21. Kh1 Rb2! 22. Rab1 Bg2+ 23. Kg1 Rxb1 24. Rxb1 Bxe5 for a winning black advantage. |
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| Aug-14-04 |
| Lawrence: <Junior 8> gives 14....Rxg2+ a resounding 0.00. Both 14....Bh3 and 14....Qf3 get -2.79 (40 min, 3 GHz). |
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Aug-14-04
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| patzer2: <greystar69> If 19. Bxf7+!! <19...Kxf7>, then White appears to gain a winning advantage after 20. fxe3! Play could continue 20...Bxe3+ 21. Rf2 Bxf2+ 22. Kh1 Rc3 (not 22...Rb2 23. Qh5+  ) 23. Qd2 Rf3 24. Qd5+ Kf8 25. a4! Bg4! 26. Kg2 Bh4 27. Qxb7 Rf2+ 28. Kg1 Re2 29. Qa8+ Kf7 30. Qh8 Bf2+ 31. Kf1 Bd4 32. Qxh7+ Kf8 33. Bxa1 Qxg4 34. Rxh2 Qc8+ 35.Qc8+ Kf7 36. Qc4+ Kf8 37. Qd5 |
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| Aug-14-04 |
| Dick Brain: I thought 14...Rxg2+ 15. Kxg2 Bh3+ 16. Kg1 Qf3 17. Ne3 Bh6 18. Qd1 Qxe3 19. fxe3(?) Bxe3+ 20. Rf2 Rxf2 with a tightened noose was the solution since it looked like a chess puzzle solution and especially a chessgames.com problem because of 18..Qxe3. I didn't really consider 19. Qd5? as played in the game and I'm sure I could have looked forever without finding 19. Bxf7+!
I considered 14...Bh3 and 14...Qf3 of course, but they didn't looking forcing enough especially with Black's vulnerable-looking king position. |
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Aug-14-04
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| Zenchess: On move 12, White could have prevented this whole mess from ever starting with 12. Qd3! first, and then Nd5. Black's mate idea at this point is to play ...f5 and ...Bg7, skewering the Qd4 to the Bc3. 12. Qd3 avoids this idea and removes the pin on c2, allowing him to go Nd5. |
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| Aug-14-04 |
| maildog: Hmm... I saw 14...Qf3 but it wasn't played in the game. But reading your posts makes me believe I found a better move in 5 seconds. |
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Aug-14-04
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| JohnBoy: Two quick questions -
(1) raylopez99, do you have a brother marco?
(2) How does one get the <...> in brown when responding to another posting? I'm a newbie (but a long retired 2200 player - so hopefully I'll have some worthwhile input from time to time) and haven't figured out the site yet.Gracias, cabronnes. (How do you spell this?) |
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Aug-14-04
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| Gypsy: I am one of those that would choose Qf3 first, Bh3 second, and Rxg2+ third. Welcome to this site <JohnBoy>. I noticed elswehere that you already discovered the <cut-and-paste>. |
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| Aug-15-04 |
| Lawrence: <JohnBoy>, only one "n". |
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Aug-17-04
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| patzer2: <JohnBoy> Welcome aboard! With yourself, clocked, Honza Cervenka, Karlzen, IM Lawrence Day and GM Keene there are some strong analysts on this site. <Lawrence> <only one "n"> reminds me of http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStri... |
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Jun-23-06
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| Caissanist: Christiansen gave 14..Rxg2 a "?!?!" when he annotated this game for Chess Life and Review, and added that "simply [Qf3] wins". He couldn't resist playing Rxg2 because the resulting combination was so beautiful, and because he expected Botto to fall for it. |
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