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Jan-07-04
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| paulalbert: For Benzol: Sorry I could not respond yesterday. One correction: I noticed I made a typo on my previous message: it's William F. ( not J. ) Levine but he goes by "Billy" even though he is over 80.On your question, by happenstance my sister gave me the book you are looking for for Christmas: Master Pieces by Gareth Wiliams , a Quintet Book published by Apple Press in London in 2000. Great pictures of collector sets from all over world and discussion text.
Williams is one of founders of Chess Collectors International, an organization of serious collectors of chess books, sets, etc. which Billy is very active in. Billy's wife Hope is Secretary and Williams wife Vel is also an officer. Go to the web site for some interesting links.Their next big conclave is in Madrid this year.I am serious player and somewhat of a chess patron, not a collector. My chess book collection is an accident of time, a result of buying chess books for 50 years.I'll see Billy at his house tomorrow for our chess group's monthly playing session, so I'll give you some additional feedback. Paul Albert |
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Jan-10-04
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| Benzol: <paulalbert> Paul thankyou for your response. I'll certainly keep an eye out for "Master Pieces" by Gareth Williams.
I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier but my father is in hospital and I've been trying to deal with his problems and so have had little time to catch up with other people's posts. Once again many thanks and I look forward to your future correspondence. |
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| Jan-12-04 |
| checkmup: this tactic/strategy of piece sac's & exchanges to arrive at endgame with connected pass pawns, was a favorite of russian masters botvinnik, a close friend of Ragozin..I like the luft
and lure combo of move 19...h5,,, which decentralized white's Queen & knight.. |
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Jan-12-04
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| paulalbert: For Benzol: Hope everything OK with your father. Saw Billy on Thursday. He and Hope know Gareth and Vel Williams well, as I expected, and they are going to be in Madrid for Chess Collectors event. Billy reaffirms my suggestion for Williams book as a good overview relating to chess sets. Paul Albert |
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| Feb-23-04 |
| Calculoso: Isn't 35. ... c3 winning for black (with the queen and rook fork and the HOIVEN-GLAVEN)? |
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Feb-23-04
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| Honza Cervenka: <Isn't 35. ... c3 winning for black (with the queen and rook fork and the HOIVEN-GLAVEN)?> What about 36.Qxc3? |
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| Feb-23-04 |
| Calculoso: Thanks, Honza. I didn't really think much into it before I posted :) |
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| Aug-22-04 |
| morphynoman2: This is the comment by Botvinnik to the polemic 27. Ng3. (Sorry, my book is in spanish):
"Hasta ahora las blancas no daban a las negras ningunas posibilidades y lograron señorear todo el tablero. Con la última jugada se acercan antes de tiempo a la realización de su ventaja y el enemigo se aprovecha rápidamente de esto. Correspondía preparar la jugada Ng3 por medio de 27. Re1". |
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Feb-21-05
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| LIFE Master AJ: This game is DEEPLY annotated on my web site. |
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| Sep-20-05 |
| Averageguy: Sorry, but I have never really loved this game. The sacrifices were good, and it was an interesting and original idea, but it is just that this game has never gripped me. I hope this doesn't offend fellow kibitzers. |
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| Mar-06-06 |
| MrMojoRisin: Wow, Black sac's two exchanges to obtain connected passed pawns! I can't believe this game isn't more well known (its only in 10 game collections here!). And I still don't know exactly where White went wrong in this game. This is definitely going into my collection. |
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| Mar-06-06 |
| MrMojoRisin: While reading the anlaysis from the above posted link, I came across this nice little quote... <"To me, it almost seems that GM's have kept this game a secret, and have held it back for their own enjoyment!"> - LIFE Master A.J. Goldsby I And <"Black has played an extremely fine combination, perhaps one of the finest on record."> - GM M. Botvinnik. |
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| Mar-17-06 |
| Whitehat1963: A truly excellent game proving that the pawn is indeed the soul of chess and that greed kills. |
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| May-17-07 |
| myschkin: Quotes:
"One of the best games and one of the finer combinations ever recorded."
(GM Jan Timman)
"Black has played an extremely fine combination, perhaps one of the finest on record."
(GM M. Botvinnik)
"Whether Black had calculated the combination to move 33 or had given up the exchange intuitively to destroy White's middlegame plan, his thinking is impressive."
(GM A. Soltis)
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May-17-07
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| whiteshark: <myschkin>: Long time no hear from you. What happened ? |
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| Jul-09-07 |
| sanyas: <Whitehat1963> <and that greed kills> What do you mean? |
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| Jul-10-07 |
| sanyas: I like this even better than the more classic MacDonnell vs La Bourdonnais, 1834. |
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Jul-10-07
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| ughaibu: Sanyas: A comparison from Benzol: R Kobs vs P Hammer, 1987 |
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Jun-12-08
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| Pawn and Two: After 40...c3, Kotov and Yudovich stated in "The Soviet School of Chess", <A subtle, and the only, path to victory. White would retain the chance for attacking the enemy King both after 40...Kf8 41.Re3 with the threat of 42.Qh4, and after 40...Qa8 41.Qb4.> As we will see, Kotov and Yudovich's evaluation was incorrect. White could still have obtained a draw after 40...c3. Also, in the additional variation they give, 40...Qa8 41.Qb4 Qa3, the game is equal. A.J. Goldsby, in his review of this game, www.geocities.com/lifemaster, stated he considered White's move, 41.Re8+, to be the critical point of the game, <So I do think that this might have been "the losing move".> Goldsby stated that White should have tried, 41.Ra1 Qd6 42.Re8+ Kh7 43.Re5 b2, with an unclear position. Goldsby also noted that Andy Soltis, in his annotations for this game, made no comment regarding White's 41st move. The tournament book, "Moscow 1935 - International Chess Tournament", made no comment regarding White's choice of moves at move 41. However, Fritz showed that White did miss a clear draw. Best was 41.Ra1! Qd6, (not 41...b2? 42.Rxa3 Nxa3 43.Qxc3 b1Q 44.Re1), 42.Re8+ Kh7 43.Re3!, with an equal position. At this point, Black could try: (.00 (26 ply) 43...Qg6 44.Rb1 b2 45.Qh4+ Qh6 46.Qe1 Qg6, or (.00) (26 ply) 43...b2 44.Rb1 Qb4 45.Rxb2 Qxb2 46.Qh4+ Kg8 47.Qd8+, with an equal position in either line. |
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| Jul-15-08 |
| myschkin: <whiteshark> good question :)
do you have a forum to discuss?? |
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Jul-15-08
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| whiteshark: LOL :D |
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Jul-15-08
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| whiteshark: <myschkin> ... |
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| Jan-19-10 |
| BISHOP TAL: Here 2 passed pawns make 2 minor peices worth more than 2 major peices |
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| Jan-19-10 |
| ChessKnightsOfLondon: What about 34 Rxc4 followed up by d5. I think this should be enough for a draw. |
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Jan-19-10
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| Pawn and Two: <ChessKnightsOfLondon & BISHOP TAL> If 34.Rxc4??, Fritz shows Black is winning: 34...bxc4! (-4.14) (25 ply) 35.Rd1 Ba4 36.Ra1 Bb3 37.Rb1 Nxd4. At move 34, Fritz indicated White had several moves that would allow him to retain an advantage: (.85) (22 ply) 34.Rca2 Qxd4 35.Qxd4 Nxd4 36.Rd1, or (.82) (22 ply) 34.Rb2 Qxd4 35.Qxd4 Nxd4 36.Kg1, or, as played in the game, (.70) (22 ply) 34.Rd1 b4 35.Rb2 b3. This position is very complicated, and a deeper analysis would be required to determine if White can maintain this edge. As late as move 38, Fritz indicates White had an advantage: (.84) (21 ply) 38.Qd2 Nb5 39.Re3. After 38.Qb4? Nb5 39.Re7 Qa3 40.Qe1 c3, the position was equal: 
click for larger viewKotov and Yudovich in "The Soviet School of Chess", stated that 40...c3 was the only path to victory for Black. However, White can draw with: (.00) (24 ply) 41.Ra1! Qd6 42.Re8+ Kh7 43.Re3 b2 44.Rb1 Qg6 45.Qh4+ Qh6 46.Qe1 Qg6, or (.00) (24 ply) 44...Qb4, (or 44...Qa3), 45.Rxb2 Qxb2 46.Qh4+ Kg8 47.Qd8+. After the game continuation, 41.Re8+ Bxe8 42.Qxe8+ Kh7 43.Qxf7 Qa8, Fritz indicates White still had at least one line that would lead to a draw: (-.42) (27 ply) 44.Qf5+! Kh8 45.Re1 Nd6 46.Qg6 b2 47.Kh2 Qb8 48.g3, (-.38) (25 ply) 48...Kg8 49.Kg2 Qf8 50.h4 Qf6 51.Qd3 Qf5 52.Qxc3 b1Q 53.Rxb1 Qxb1 54.Qc6 Nf5, (.00) (21 ply) 55.Qxd5+. |
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