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|Jul-21-05|| ||carpedieumjoe: quite obvious to me .... nice puzzle
|Jul-21-05|| ||chesswonders: Nice one.|
|Jul-21-05|| ||Nicholson: This is my first post here, though I've been lurking for awhile. I just have to say that this is the easiest Thursday puzzle I've seen so far.|
|Jul-21-05|| ||tpstar: <Nicholson> Hello! Welcome to the group! These exercises are great for keeping our tactics sharp. Yet the usual candidate moves are a check (23. Nf6+!) or a capture (24. Qxf7+) leading to the solution. Still, this is a winning motif that might be missed if we weren't looking for it. See you around.|
After playing through the opening, I see why Black lost. Ugh.
|Jul-21-05|| ||Honza Cervenka: Pretty puzzle and nice game. I think that this is quite typical game of Ljubojevic playing at olympiad. He very often played especially with white pieces some uncommon line like French Defence with 2.d3, which is not much ambitious but which usually eliminates opponent's opening preparation, and then outplayed the opponent with unbelievable ease from even position. Of course, Nikola Padevsky's unorthodox treatment of opening in this game, which probably was not the best, did not make great obstacles to him.|
|Jul-21-05|| ||VishyFan: quite easy, but a nice one.....|
|Jul-21-05|| ||Knight13: I was looking at 23. Nxg5 hxg5 24. h6 Bxh6 25. Nxb6 cxb6 26. Qxf7. Does this work?|
|Jul-21-05|| ||SamuelS: <Knight13>, at least it does not lead to checkmate. For example, Black can play 25...Qe6 26. Qxe6 fxe6 27. Nxa8 Rxa8 etc. On the other hand, Black does not have to take the knight by 23...hxg5, but can play 23...Kg8 instead. Forced checkmate is always the best option.|
|Jul-21-05|| ||Richard Taylor: I thought of Nf6 and Ng5+ immediatley but frst went for ( after discarding 23. Ng5+) 23. Nf6+ Bf6 24. N:g5+ etc
Then 23. Nf6+ B:f6 24. Q:f7+ Bg7 25. Rd7 ..then the two ideas came tgether so I got the game continuation and after 25. Ng5+ h:g5 26 h6 wins in all replies I could see..a nice combination.
The question being where did Back go wrong - he couldn't castle because of his h6 pawn so he had to "shuffle" his King to the K-side but maybe that wasn't wrong:maybe some other move?|
|Jul-21-05|| ||Richard Taylor: What about 9. ...Bb7 10.Be2 d5? may have been better ?
But then is 9. .. Bb7 10. B:d6 but then maybe 10. 0-0 !?|
Perhaps 9. ... Nf6 10. Bd3 Bb7 (Ne:4!?) 11. b4 Qd7......?
Black can wait and see whether to castle either side perhaps.
|Jul-21-05|| ||bishopmate: can someone explain to me why black didn't castle and chose to waste tempi and block his rook by moving over one by one to h7??|
|Jul-21-05|| ||PhilFeeley: Black couldn't castle at move 9, <bishopmate>, because white had a double attack on his h-pawn. Castling would have removed the rook from its protection, so black had to "castle" much more slowly.|
|Jul-21-05|| ||paul dorion: <bishopmate> by castling instead of playing h6 , black would have invited Bh6 followed by h4-h5 as seen in the Dragon-Yugoslav variation. In the present case , black would have no counterplay to compensate. Padevsky played passively , not contesting the center and Ljubo had the board for himself.|
|Jul-21-05|| ||xxdsdxx: Hmmm. I enjoy using the sjkbase board in quiz mode for these puzzles. I started with the obvious check (Nf6+), noted the forced Bxf6, followed that with Qxf7+, another forced Bg7. Thought a moment, hmmmm, Nxg5+, hxg5 forced again, h6! and there ain't no way out of this! hxg7#!!!!|
|Jul-21-05|| ||xxdsdxx: Looking at these posts, I realized that it worked either way. The OTHER check (Nxg5+), hxg5 (preferred over Kg8), Nf6+ Bxf6 forced, Qxf7+ Bg7 forced, h6!!! and there ain't no way out of this! Two trails to the same ending, no wonder I found it so quickly! & I thought I was a learning around here LOL!!!|
|Jul-21-05|| ||IMlday: 11..Kg8 looks correct.|
|Jul-21-05|| ||YouRang: Woo hoo! I can't believe that after blowing yesterday's easy puzzle, that I got this one! The knight 'sacrifices' were the only forcing moves, and they allowed the queen, pawn and rook to move in for the kill.|
|Jul-21-05|| ||EinZweiDrei: I got it, must be easy.|
|Jul-21-05|| ||Knight13: <SamuelS> Thanks! I got it! :)|
|Jul-21-05|| ||zabbura2002: <xxdsdxx: The OTHER check (Nxg5+), hxg5 (preferred over Kg8), Nf6+ Bxf6 forced, Qxf7+ Bg7 forced, h6!!!>|
I think Nxg5+ is even more frightening for Black.. it might lead to a mate if Black blunders by 23. ..Kg8 24.Nf6+ where ..Kf8(or..Bxf6) 25.Qxf7#
|Jul-21-05|| ||kevin86: This game reminds me of a Napier win-in which he sacrificed a queen and mated by double check. Good attack by white.|
|Jul-21-05|| ||Backward Development: I too looked at 23.Nxg5+ I usually spot all the tactical motifs in a puzzle, just play the moves in the wrong order! D'oh!|
|Jul-21-05|| ||hpfisch: It was my first time to visit and try one of these. Interesting and rather easy. Thanks|
|Jul-21-05|| ||BishopofBlunder: First time I ever solved a Thursday puzzle. And by solved, I mean actually following through with the combination instead of just "guessing" the right move, like I usually do. :)|
|Jul-21-05|| ||IMlday: Hippos are hard to understand; they shouldn't DO anything. Doing something is White's problem. But with ..Nc6 and ..e5 Padevsky DID something himself with severe consequences.|
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