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Sergio Mariotti vs Svetozar Gligoric
Venice (1971), Venice ITA, rd 8, Nov-??
Italian Game: Evans Gambit. Main Line (C51)  ·  1-0
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Mar-04-07  paul1959: 29... Re8 looks like a mistake. After 29... Bc6 Black would consolidate his pieces positions and White would have to guard against 30 ...Qf4 forcing the exchange of queens.
Mar-04-07  percyblakeney: I wasn't even sure if it started with 33. Bxf6, it looked good if black took the bishop but after Qe4 or Rf7 it got much too complicated...
Mar-04-07  Fisheremon: <chessmoron: Starting from 31. Bh7+!, Mariotti play very elegantly in the end.> A saving move for Black was 32...Re1+!. After 33.Kh2 Re7 The position just differs from the one of puzzle with Kh2. The point is in the variation 34.Bxf6 Rf7 35.Qg6+ Kg8 36.Nf5 (winning in the puzzle cos' King is on g1) Qf4+ with perpetual.

Note 32...Kh8 doesn't save because of the following combo: 33.Bxf6 gxf6 34.Rd6 Rg8 35.Ng6+ Kh7 36.Qd3 Rxg6 37.Rxd7+ ( )

Mar-04-07  greensfield: Had (a) 33.Ng6 (b) 33.Qg6+ & (c) 33.Bxf6 as candidate moves. I went for Qg6+ but couldn't get anywhere.
Mar-04-07  Themofro: I saw Bxf6, but missed most of the rest of the puzzle.
Mar-04-07  beatles fan: I found Bxf6 and that accepting the sacrafice wins three pawns for a bishop, with threats of mate. Pretty good puzzle.
Mar-04-07
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  playground player: I wonder why no one on the Internet wants to play the Evans Gambit. Heck, they won't even play the first three moves of the Giuoco Piano. (All right, I came nowhere near solving this puzzle.) I do wonder, too, about the prevalence of Philidor's Defense and the Two Knights Defense at the intermediate level. Where are they getting this from?
Mar-04-07  Lalagah: Bxf6 doesnt do anything for white
that white couldn't do anyway after ..pxB
stupid puzzle and the solution is BS
Mar-04-07  Lalagah: suppose blacks accepts the sacrifice, what the hell does that do for white?
Mar-04-07
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  karrs: What about 34. Re5. This would at least win the black queen. Thanks.
Mar-04-07  Brapp: I saw the Bishop sacrifice with intriguing play afterwards, but like others have said, the continuation was just too deep for me.

Mar-04-07  independentthinker: I saw Bxf6 immediately and it looked great and then I wondered about the obvious move Qg6+. I pondered for a bit and thought it is a great in-between move and since it was so obvious the entire puzzle could be a double bluff.

D'oh!

Mar-04-07  DIO: karrs, I agree with you. In fact, I believe 33...Qe4 is an inferior reply thanks to 34.Re5 which wins the queen under the threat of mate. I had the following line:

33.Bxf6 Rf7
34.Qg6+ Kg8 (Kh8 losses the rook)
35.Rd6 Qf4
...
and now I got stuck ... I do not see a good line from that point on ...

Can anyone help? BTW, if you see another line after 33...Rf7, please, go ahead ...

Many thanks!

Mar-04-07  Fisheremon: < DIO: karrs, I agree with you. In fact, I believe 33...Qe4 is an inferior reply thanks to 34.Re5 which wins the queen under the threat of mate. I had the following line:

33.Bxf6 Rf7
34.Qg6+ Kg8 (Kh8 losses the rook)
35.Rd6 Qf4
...
and now I got stuck ... I do not see a good line from that point on ...

Can anyone help? BTW, if you see another line after 33...Rf7, please, go ahead ...

Many thanks!> 35.Nf5 Qf4 36.g3 (Pls see my previous message).

Mar-05-07  alshatranji: Sorry I meant 34.Re5
Mar-05-07  DIO: Thank you Fishermon! And by the way I'd like to correct something: 34.Re5 does not necessarily win the Queen, since she can escape with Qb1+ ... however, the position is still lost for the black.
Mar-05-07  RookFile: Gligoric was once a great player, but by this point he had clearly slipped.
Mar-05-07
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  kevin86: A nice way to build an attack by white!
Mar-06-07  Plato: <Gligoric was once a great player, but by this point he had clearly slipped.>

He was still among the top 14-19 players in the world throughout 1971 according to chessmetrics. Not too shabby.

Mar-06-07  RookFile: Sure. He wasn't <great> any more.
Mar-06-07  Plato: I guess it comes down to how you define <great>. During which period, for example, would you consider him a great player?
Mar-06-07  RookFile: During the period when Fischer defined him as one of the ten best players ever.
Mar-06-07  Plato: Fischer's second list (which included Gligoric) was made in 1970. That would be one year before this game was played. It was his *earlier* list (from 1964) that didn't include Gligoric as one of the ten best of all time.

Besides, Fischer did not specify a period of greatness for Gligoric.

Apr-10-07
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  keypusher: <lalagah suppose blacks accepts the sacrifice, what the hell does that do for white?>

White wins with 33. Bxf6 gxf6 34. Qg6+ Kh8 35. Qxf6+ Rg7 36. Nf5! Bxf5 37. Rd8+ Kh7 38. Qxf5+ Rg6 39. Rd7+ and Black must give up his queen or get mated: 39....Kh8 40. Qf8+ Rg8 41. Qxh6#.

Apr-10-07  RookFile: This game was played after Gligoric's prime years. He remained a top grandmaster, of course.
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