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Leo Fleischmann Forgacs vs Geza Maroczy
"Royal Succession" (game of the day Jun-29-2011)
Budapest (1902)
St. George Defense: General (B00)  ·  0-1
ANALYSIS [x]

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Dec-23-03  Resignation Trap: I was just looking at this wild game last night. Maroczy plays 1...a6 against his opponent! More than that, both players sacrifice their original Queens and promote a pawn for a new Queen before move 20.
Oct-27-04  arifattar: <chessgames.com> You place this game in the George opening and classify this as the French defense. Naughty boy.
Apr-12-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  An Englishman: Good Evening: Bizarre and exciting stuff. I wonder if each player thought he had trapped his opponent, if each player thought he had been trapped by his opponent, or if each player thought he had trapped *and* been trapped by his opponent. I'm inclined to believe that Maroczy's pawn sac on move 8 was just a little too speculative (8...Qb6 threatening ...b5-b4 looks good), but I am glad he played it.
Oct-05-07  lopium: Great game.
Aug-12-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  GrahamClayton: There is amazing duplication in this game. Marozcy sacrifices his Queen, captures a Rook and promotes a pawn, all within the first 13 moves. Fleischmann then sacrifices his Queen, captures a Rook and promotes a pawn within the next 8 moves!
Aug-22-08  just a kid: All I can say is wow!
May-08-09  paladin at large: This kind of razzle-dazzle is not what you think of when Maroczy is mentioned. Does anyone know the context of this game?
Jun-29-11  azax: I wouldn't be surprised to hear this game is composed, though I doubt that it is.
Jun-29-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Infohunter: Not your usual Maróczy game. Wild!
Jun-29-11  Jamboree: I thnk 21. Qxa8? is the losing move. Yes, a juicy rook is hanging there, but taking it gives black time to keep white's king in the center and eventual mortal danger. I would have played 21. Bxf5!, trying to get the white king to safety after 21. ... exf5 22. 0-0. After that, white can continue the attack on black's king, and seems to have at least a perpetual check if not more. If Black tries something fancy like 21. ... Qd4 instead of recapturing, white has the same themes with 22. Qc8+!, after which black loses the queen or gets mated (e.g. 22. ... Ke7 23. Qc7+ Bd7 24. Nc6+, or 22. Qc8+ Be8 23. Bd6+ Kg8 24. Qxa8 Qe3+ 25. Kd1! Qc1+ 26. Ke2!, and despite having a queen and two bishops vs. a king on an open board, black runs out of moves -- because both bishops are neutralized.

This analysis is not definitive (off the top of my head), but it looks a whole lot better than the game continuation.

Jun-29-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  ColeTrane: very nice . . . until the king didn't castle that is
Jun-29-11  formichiere gigante: This is what boxing commentators call a slugfest. Cool.
Jun-29-11  KingV93: Interesting game. I think White would have gotten away with giving Black bxa1=♕ if he had castled at some early point.
Jun-29-11  abuzic: <16. Ba7?> wrong judgement, seemingly theatens mating attack if 16...Rxb7?? 17. c7+ Ke7 18. c8=Q+ Nc6+ 19. Nxa7+ Kxc7 (19...Ke7 20. Nxc8#) 20. Qc6+ Kb8 21. Nc6 and mate follows soon. 16. c7+ would keep white very active. <16...Bxa3> black could have more active play with 16...Qb2, or the simple 16...f6

<17. c7+> is tempting, as if 17...Ke7? or 17...Kf8? white would have very strong continuation, but black took the initiative with 17...Bd7. White could keep his position with 17. Nb3.

<18. Qxa8.> <Jamboree: I thnk 21. Qxa8? is the losing move..... I would have played 21. Bxf5!...>

Yes, <21. Bxf5> would be better, keeping counterplay, but black wouldn't respond with <21....exf5 22. 0-0>, but 21...g6!, for example 22. 0-0 Bc5+ 23. Kh1 Kg7 (or 22...Kg7 Qxa8 23. Bc5+ Kh1 24. Bb5) and white keeps the initiative.

Jun-29-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Check It Out: <azax> The same thought crossed my mind.
Jun-29-11  Ferro: CAZAFANTASMA
Jun-29-11  Ferro: I NOT
Jun-29-11  Ferro: Maroczy
Jun-29-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  OBIT: This is one of those games where counting pieces seems pretty irrelevant.
Jun-29-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  playground player: In a game this crazy, how could they tell when it was over?
Jun-29-11  Stjef: The first ten half moves are pawn moves. Does anyone know of other serious games where this is surpassed? I wonder what the record is?
Jun-29-11  abuzic: <Stjef> Arthur Feuerstein vs. Lonnie Kwartler http://www.chess.com/article/view/t...

Also: http://www.chessvideos.tv/forum/vie...

Jun-29-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  TheFocus: <Stjef> This one does not surpass it, but I thought you might like this. Check out Marshall's Pawn moves.

Marshall vs H Rogosin, 1940

Jun-29-11  erniecohen: 15. 0-0 traps the queen and wins rather easily, e.g. 15...♗xa3 16. ♘b3 ♕b2 17. ♗c1 or 15... ♕b2 16. ♕a4 ♗xa3 17. ♘b3, followed by ♗c1.
Jun-30-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: A remarkable game in that both players "sacrificed" their queens and replaced them (hence,the pun).
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