Apr-08-05
 | | Whitehat1963: Rubinstein mated in his prime -- and while playing the white pieces! I'm surprised no one has kibitzed about this game. Would this be classified as another swindle on Marshall's part or just a colossal blunder? |
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Apr-08-05
 | | offramp: It looks to me as if Rubinstein was playing an ending, but Marshall was still playing a middle-game.
I wouldn't call it a swindle as black is not losing at the time of the blunder. |
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Apr-08-05
 | | Eatman: Could be they were in time trouble.. Black would still be better after 28. h4 f2+ 29. Kxf2 Bxc6 (don't think 28. ... Nh3+ or Nd5 are as good) |
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Apr-08-05
| | offramp: Lodz triangular match 1908:
1 Rubinstein,Akiba *** ½½011½10 1½01½1½½ 9.5/16
2 Marshall,Frank ½½100½01 *** ½11½½½½0 8.0/16
3 Salwe,Georg 0½10½0½½ ½00½½½½1 *** 6.5/16
Obviously a tough match/tournament. |
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Aug-03-11
| | r00ksac: After 25...Bxg2, 26. Na5 looks interesting. If then 26...Kf7, then 27.b5 seems ok. |
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| Aug-03-11 | | okiesooner: Instead of 28. c7??, what about 28. Kf2? Black must now move his Knight to stop White from queening his Pawn. If 28...Nd5 29. Bxf3 Bxf3 30. Kxf3 or 29...Bh3 30. Bxd5+ exd5 31. Kf3 winning the d-Pawn. If 28...Nd3+ 29. Ke2 f2 30. c7 f1Q 31. c8Q+ and because White has queened his Pawn with check, he wins a piece with 31...Kf7 32. Qd7+ and 33. Qxd3 or with 31...Qf8 32. Qxf8+ Kxf8 33. Qxd3. In all of these cases White neutralizes or captures the advanced Black Pawn. |
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May-06-12
| | PYCJacobson: White was TOTALLY WINNING at the time of "blunder". This happened a few times to Rubinstein, like: Marshall vs Rubinstein, 1908, 1908 where he missed another mate in one in a totally winning position. It is not the type of blunder Carlsen talks about, which comes about after relentless pressure.
It is the blunder of a victorious soldier who after taking the enemy for dead lets down his guard only to be killed by the very last movement of his dying victim. Tragic, of course, but very human. In my book, Rubinstein won this game, irrespective of the result. After Kf2 it is all over. It might take a while after ...Nd5, but it is a routine win for a good player. |
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