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|Aug-27-10|| ||aislas: A truly instructional game.
I would have not thought of 11.g4, to be honest, I would have just moved 11.Nf5 because "it looks nice." Pretty mindless...
Question, if Black had taken the knight on f5 immediately, 11.. Bxf5, it would be correct to take with the g pawn and use the g and h columns for the rooks at it happened later? At this early stage the right way to go is not obvious to me, I'm afraid.
|Feb-08-11|| ||KingG: 12...h5 and 13...hxg4 really are difficult moves to understand. Surely it was obvious to Marshall that White would make better use of the h-file than Black?|
|Feb-08-11|| ||perfidious: <KingG> Maybe not-read Kasparov's OMGP sometime. His comments on Marshall's limitations, for all his greatness, are illuminating; as K notes, only a very few top players then had positional insight which is routine to an ordinary modern master.|
|Sep-14-11|| ||Shams: <aislas><Question, if Black had taken the knight on f5 immediately, 11.. Bxf5, it would be correct to take with the g pawn and use the g and h columns for the rooks at it happened later? At this early stage the right way to go is not obvious to me, I'm afraid.>|
After 12.Nf5 Bxf5 you are very correct, 13.gxf5 is terrible for Black:
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This is the Spanish torture in a pretty pure form. Kg1-h1 and Re1-g1 are obvious moves. As white here I'd probably treat myself to a2-a3, just to allow the light-squared bishop room to torture Black's kingside in peace. Looks very, very promising.
|Sep-14-11|| ||perfidious: <Shams> I'm no expert on the Spanish Torture from the White side, but I also like the idea of capturing away from the centre with 13.exf5, intending to play d4, when Black is hard put to maintain his central outpost.|
This may well be a question of style, as I don't know that there's a lot to choose between the moves from an objective point of view.
|Sep-14-11|| ||Colonel Mortimer: There's a saying in chess (apparently): If you can understand the strategic imperatives of the Ruy, the Sicilian and the Nimzo openings then ..... I forgot the punch line:)|
|Sep-14-11|| ||Shams: <perfidious> I wondered if you'd agree. His questions was just sitting there, though, unanswered. :)|
|Sep-14-11|| ||perfidious: <Shams> Indeed they were, and in my haste to respond to <KingG> some months back, I overlooked <aislas>' question or forgot to answer him.|
|Feb-09-13|| ||piltdown man: Nice pun! Don't know how many young people will get it, though.|
|Feb-09-13|| ||Phony Benoni: OK, I get the reference: it's a line from the movie "Casablanca". But it would have been a much better pun had the game been played at the Marshall Chess Club (which, alas, did not come into existence until 1915).|
|Feb-09-13|| ||Abdel Irada: Capa. Casa. What's the difference, as long as Blanca is involved?|
|Feb-09-13|| ||HeMateMe: We'll always have Paris.|
|Feb-09-13|| ||morfishine: Blank Check|
|Feb-09-13|| ||kevin86: White is a bishop and pawn ahead,time for black to strike his colors.|
|Feb-09-13|| ||jovack: Totally outplayed Frank, good game.|
|Feb-09-13|| ||drnooo: first off, it ain't no bloody pun, just
a title, referential, if you will, but
extremely, almost anyway, clever. And
the poster is right, to really make it work this encounter should have been at the
Marshall club, so it was a mite hasty
hurrying to jam it in where it doesn't really work, like Melba, in the Cincinnati Kid
shaving off a piece of a jigsaw, and
Shooter asks her, why do you do that,
and she replies so it'll FIT, stupid.
|Feb-09-13|| ||TheTamale: <drnooo>: The Cincinnati Kid, yes, I remember him, a pretty good fighter. Fought out of St. Louis, as I recall.|
|Feb-09-13|| ||FSR: <sevenseaman: ... He thus keeps Marshall's Q hors de combat>|
Are you calling Marshall's queen a combative hor?
|Feb-09-13|| ||perfidious: <FSR> Maybe that is why I've been known to use 'horsie de combat'.....lol.|
|Feb-09-13|| ||FSR: <perfidious> If you're looking for combative horsies, I recommend Bogoljubov vs Schmid, 1949.|
|Feb-09-13|| ||JG27Pyth: Marshall is like Bent Larsen to Capablanca's Fischer -- an undeniably great and memorable player, and yet, not in the same league.|
|Feb-09-13|| ||Phony Benoni: <FSR> Or else A Lehtinen vs J Sietio, 1996|
|Feb-09-13|| ||perfidious: <FSR> Remarkable game-first saw that in Tartakower and Dumont's collection many years ago.|
|Feb-09-13|| ||FSR: <perfidious> Me too!|
|Feb-09-13|| ||FSR: <Phony Benoni> That's one way to circumvent the time control!|
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