Jose Raul Capablanca vs Frank Marshall (1909) Of All the Chess Clubs in All the World...

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Jose Raul Capablanca vs Frank Marshall
"Of All the Chess Clubs in All the World..." (game of the day Feb-09-2013)
Capablanca - Marshall (1909), Morristown, NJ USA, rd 6, Apr-29
Spanish Game: Steinitz Defense (C62) · 1-0

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Feb-09-13		FSR: <sevenseaman: ... He thus keeps Marshall's Q hors de combat> Are you calling Marshall's queen a combative hor?

Feb-09-13		perfidious: <FSR> Maybe that is why I've been known to use 'horsie de combat'.....lol.

Feb-09-13		FSR: <perfidious> If you're looking for combative horsies, I recommend Bogoljubov vs Schmid, 1949.

Feb-09-13		JG27Pyth: Marshall is like Bent Larsen to Capablanca's Fischer -- an undeniably great and memorable player, and yet, not in the same league.

Feb-09-13		Phony Benoni: <FSR> Or else A Lehtinen vs J Sietio, 1996

Feb-09-13		perfidious: <FSR> Remarkable game-first saw that in Tartakower and Dumont's collection many years ago.

Feb-09-13		FSR: <perfidious> Me too!

Feb-09-13		FSR: <Phony Benoni> That's one way to circumvent the time control!

Jan-08-14		raju17: Great capablanca. I would love to see him play tal or alex.

Jan-09-14		ughaibu: Who is "alex"?

Aug-26-16		maelith: Instructive game.

Aug-21-17		talhal20: Very subtle game.

Aug-22-17		WorstPlayerEver: Capa at his very best: flawless as Stockfish 21.

Aug-22-17		beatgiant: <WorstPlayerEver> <flawless as Stockfish 21> Previous kibitzing by <Mateo> and others claimed that 19. Bxg5 is a major improvement. You don't agree? Post your line for Black after 19. Bxg5?

Aug-22-17		WorstPlayerEver: 19. Bxg5 Qxg5 20. exd5 Bf5 21. de6 Be6 22. Bc6 bc6 23. f3 f6 24. Kf2 Kf7 25. Qe3 Qe3 26. Ke3 Nope, I don't agree. Stockfish 8 gives 2.6 In the game Stockfish gives 2.5 in the best variation I could find (for Black) after White's 26th move. But hey... Stockfish 8 isn't Stockfish 21! 😎 Anyway, people were always arguing that Capa made 'second best moves.' But the engines have rated up Capa's moves a lot since the introduction of chess engines afaik. So who knows what the future will bring.

Aug-22-17		WorstPlayerEver: I let the engine run for a while 23... Qb6 24. Ra3 Rd8 25. Be3 Qc7 26. Raa1 1.9 I have to correct my previous post; 19. Bg5 seems far more effective. Because after the above variation the position is still complicated, while 19. Bg5 leads to an endgame which looks not too complicated for White. So yes, it's a major improvement.

Dec-21-17		Mazymetric: Kasparov's analysis on this game is really weird. He says: "I would have preferred 14...Ng5" but that loses a piece after 15.Nxe7+ Qxe7 16.Bxg5. Can anyone explain the idea behind 14...Ng5 ?

Dec-31-18		HarryP: If a player new to the game wanted to learn how to conduct a King-side attack, this would be one of the games he'd want to study. Well done, Capa.

Jun-04-22		technical draw: I wonder if Marshall didn't realize he was a bishop down when he played 38...Qxf8?

Jun-04-22		RookFile: He may have been hoping to sneak fxe4 fxe4 Rd2 in and round up the b2 pawn. With Kf3 white now has the option of recapturing with the king.

Jul-19-23		Mathematicar: Marshall basically misplayed the opening, which led to positional squeeze by Capa. 19. Qe3 is a very strong move, as Capablanca points out. In "My Chess Career", Capablanca says that 27. Df3 "forces Black to take the Knight on f5". I can't see this is the case. I clearly see that White's Knight is the beast, but I don't see how 27. Qf3 actually forces Black's play. I'll be happy if anyone can shed some light on this.

Jul-19-23		Mathematicar: *27. Qf3, I wroted down the move in my language.

Jul-20-23		Granny O Doul: @Mathematicar: 27. Qf3 threatens Black's d5 pawn, which is pinned. 27...Bxf5 allows Black's rook to go to d6 and defend.

Jul-20-23		Granny O Doul: I'll add that should Black answer 27. Qf3 with ...dxe4 28. dxe4 Re8, he will suffer greatly on the newly open lines after something like 29. Rd1 Qc7 30. Bxf7 Bxf7 31. Rh7.

Jul-20-23		Mathematicar: Granny O Doul, thanks, I wondered how to punish ... dxe4 28. dxe4 Re8 with Rd1. I "felt" there must be something but it seemed that there is nothing immediate.

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