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Jose Raul Capablanca vs Frank James Marshall
"Of All the Chess Clubs in All the World..." (game of the day Feb-09-13)
Capablanca - Marshall (1909)  ·  Spanish Game: Steinitz Defense (C62)  ·  1-0
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Feb-08-11
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  perfidious: <KingG> Maybe not-read Kasparov's OMGP sometime. His comments on Marshall's limitations, for all his greatness, are illuminating; as K notes, only a very few top players then had positional insight which is routine to an ordinary modern master.
Sep-14-11
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  Shams: <aislas><Question, if Black had taken the knight on f5 immediately, 11.. Bxf5, it would be correct to take with the g pawn and use the g and h columns for the rooks at it happened later? At this early stage the right way to go is not obvious to me, I'm afraid.>

After 12.Nf5 Bxf5 you are very correct, 13.gxf5 is terrible for Black:


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This is the Spanish torture in a pretty pure form. Kg1-h1 and Re1-g1 are obvious moves. As white here I'd probably treat myself to a2-a3, just to allow the light-squared bishop room to torture Black's kingside in peace. Looks very, very promising.

Sep-14-11
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  perfidious: <Shams> I'm no expert on the Spanish Torture from the White side, but I also like the idea of capturing away from the centre with 13.exf5, intending to play d4, when Black is hard put to maintain his central outpost.

This may well be a question of style, as I don't know that there's a lot to choose between the moves from an objective point of view.

Sep-14-11
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  Colonel Mortimer: There's a saying in chess (apparently): If you can understand the strategic imperatives of the Ruy, the Sicilian and the Nimzo openings then ..... I forgot the punch line:)
Sep-14-11
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  Shams: <perfidious> I wondered if you'd agree. His questions was just sitting there, though, unanswered. :)
Sep-14-11
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  perfidious: <Shams> Indeed they were, and in my haste to respond to <KingG> some months back, I overlooked <aislas>' question or forgot to answer him.
Feb-09-13  piltdown man: Nice pun! Don't know how many young people will get it, though.
Feb-09-13
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  Phony Benoni: OK, I get the reference: it's a line from the movie "Casablanca". But it would have been a much better pun had the game been played at the Marshall Chess Club (which, alas, did not come into existence until 1915).
Feb-09-13
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  Abdel Irada: Capa. Casa. What's the difference, as long as Blanca is involved?
Feb-09-13
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  HeMateMe: We'll always have Paris.
Feb-09-13
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  morfishine: Blank Check
Feb-09-13
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  kevin86: White is a bishop and pawn ahead,time for black to strike his colors.
Feb-09-13  jovack: Totally outplayed Frank, good game.
Feb-09-13  drnooo: first off, it ain't no bloody pun, just
a title, referential, if you will, but
extremely, almost anyway, clever. And
the poster is right, to really make it work this encounter should have been at the Marshall club, so it was a mite hasty
hurrying to jam it in where it doesn't really work, like Melba, in the Cincinnati Kid shaving off a piece of a jigsaw, and
Shooter asks her, why do you do that,
and she replies so it'll FIT, stupid.
Feb-09-13  TheTamale: <drnooo>: The Cincinnati Kid, yes, I remember him, a pretty good fighter. Fought out of St. Louis, as I recall.
Feb-09-13
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  FSR: <sevenseaman: ... He thus keeps Marshall's Q hors de combat>

Are you calling Marshall's queen a combative hor?

Feb-09-13
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  perfidious: <FSR> Maybe that is why I've been known to use 'horsie de combat'.....lol.
Feb-09-13
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  FSR: <perfidious> If you're looking for combative horsies, I recommend Bogoljubov vs Schmid, 1949.
Feb-09-13  JG27Pyth: Marshall is like Bent Larsen to Capablanca's Fischer -- an undeniably great and memorable player, and yet, not in the same league.
Feb-09-13
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  Phony Benoni: <FSR> Or else A Lehtinen vs J Sietio, 1996
Feb-09-13
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  perfidious: <FSR> Remarkable game-first saw that in Tartakower and Dumont's collection many years ago.
Feb-09-13
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  FSR: <perfidious> Me too!
Feb-09-13
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  FSR: <Phony Benoni> That's one way to circumvent the time control!
Jan-08-14  raju17: Great capablanca. I would love to see him play tal or alex.
Jan-09-14  ughaibu: Who is "alex"?
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