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Jose Raul Capablanca vs Frank James Marshall
"Of All the Chess Clubs in All the World..." (game of the day Feb-09-2013)
Capablanca - Marshall (1909), Morristown, NJ USA, rd 6, Apr-29
Spanish Game: Steinitz Defense (C62)  ·  1-0
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Feb-09-13
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  piltdown man: Nice pun! Don't know how many young people will get it, though.
Feb-09-13
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  Phony Benoni: OK, I get the reference: it's a line from the movie "Casablanca". But it would have been a much better pun had the game been played at the Marshall Chess Club (which, alas, did not come into existence until 1915).
Feb-09-13
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  Abdel Irada: Capa. Casa. What's the difference, as long as Blanca is involved?
Feb-09-13
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  HeMateMe: We'll always have Paris.
Feb-09-13
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  morfishine: Blank Check
Feb-09-13
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  kevin86: White is a bishop and pawn ahead,time for black to strike his colors.
Feb-09-13  jovack: Totally outplayed Frank, good game.
Feb-09-13  drnooo: first off, it ain't no bloody pun, just
a title, referential, if you will, but
extremely, almost anyway, clever. And
the poster is right, to really make it work this encounter should have been at the Marshall club, so it was a mite hasty
hurrying to jam it in where it doesn't really work, like Melba, in the Cincinnati Kid shaving off a piece of a jigsaw, and
Shooter asks her, why do you do that,
and she replies so it'll FIT, stupid.
Feb-09-13  TheTamale: <drnooo>: The Cincinnati Kid, yes, I remember him, a pretty good fighter. Fought out of St. Louis, as I recall.
Feb-09-13
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  FSR: <sevenseaman: ... He thus keeps Marshall's Q hors de combat>

Are you calling Marshall's queen a combative hor?

Feb-09-13
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  perfidious: <FSR> Maybe that is why I've been known to use 'horsie de combat'.....lol.
Feb-09-13
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  FSR: <perfidious> If you're looking for combative horsies, I recommend Bogoljubov vs Schmid, 1949.
Feb-09-13  JG27Pyth: Marshall is like Bent Larsen to Capablanca's Fischer -- an undeniably great and memorable player, and yet, not in the same league.
Feb-09-13
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  Phony Benoni: <FSR> Or else A Lehtinen vs J Sietio, 1996
Feb-09-13
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  perfidious: <FSR> Remarkable game-first saw that in Tartakower and Dumont's collection many years ago.
Feb-09-13
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  FSR: <perfidious> Me too!
Feb-09-13
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  FSR: <Phony Benoni> That's one way to circumvent the time control!
Jan-08-14  raju17: Great capablanca. I would love to see him play tal or alex.
Jan-09-14  ughaibu: Who is "alex"?
Aug-26-16  maelith: Instructive game.
Aug-21-17  talhal20: Very subtle game.
Aug-22-17
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  WorstPlayerEver: Capa at his very best: flawless as Stockfish 21.
Aug-22-17  beatgiant: <WorstPlayerEver> <flawless as Stockfish 21> Previous kibitzing by <Mateo> and others claimed that 19. Bxg5 is a major improvement. You don't agree? Post your line for Black after 19. Bxg5?
Aug-22-17
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  WorstPlayerEver: 19. Bxg5 Qxg5 20. exd5 Bf5 21. de6 Be6 22. Bc6 bc6 23. f3 f6 24. Kf2 Kf7 25. Qe3 Qe3 26. Ke3

Nope, I don't agree. Stockfish 8 gives 2.6

In the game Stockfish gives 2.5 in the best variation I could find (for Black) after White's 26th move. But hey... Stockfish 8 isn't Stockfish 21! 😎

Anyway, people were always arguing that Capa made 'second best moves.' But the engines have rated up Capa's moves a lot since the introduction of chess engines afaik. So who knows what the future will bring.

Aug-22-17
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  WorstPlayerEver: I let the engine run for a while 23... Qb6 24. Ra3 Rd8 25. Be3 Qc7 26. Raa1 1.9

I have to correct my previous post; 19. Bg5 seems far more effective. Because after the above variation the position is still complicated, while 19. Bg5 leads to an endgame which looks not too complicated for White.

So yes, it's a major improvement.

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