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Aug-27-10
 | | aislas: A truly instructional game.
I would have not thought of 11.g4, to be honest, I would have just moved 11.Nf5 because "it looks nice." Pretty mindless...Question, if Black had taken the knight on f5 immediately, 11.. Bxf5, it would be correct to take with the g pawn and use the g and h columns for the rooks at it happened later? At this early stage the right way to go is not obvious to me, I'm afraid. Thanks! |
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Feb-08-11
 | | KingG: 12...h5 and 13...hxg4 really are difficult moves to understand. Surely it was obvious to Marshall that White would make better use of the h-file than Black? |
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Feb-08-11
 | | perfidious: <KingG> Maybe not-read Kasparov's OMGP sometime. His comments on Marshall's limitations, for all his greatness, are illuminating; as K notes, only a very few top players then had positional insight which is routine to an ordinary modern master. |
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Sep-14-11
 | | Shams: <aislas><Question, if Black had taken the knight on f5 immediately, 11.. Bxf5, it would be correct to take with the g pawn and use the g and h columns for the rooks at it happened later? At this early stage the right way to go is not obvious to me, I'm afraid.> After 12.Nf5 Bxf5 you are very correct, 13.gxf5 is terrible for Black: 
click for larger viewThis is the Spanish torture in a pretty pure form. Kg1-h1 and Re1-g1 are obvious moves. As white here I'd probably treat myself to a2-a3, just to allow the light-squared bishop room to torture Black's kingside in peace. Looks very, very promising. |
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Sep-14-11
| | perfidious: <Shams> I'm no expert on the Spanish Torture from the White side, but I also like the idea of capturing away from the centre with 13.exf5, intending to play d4, when Black is hard put to maintain his central outpost. This may well be a question of style, as I don't know that there's a lot to choose between the moves from an objective point of view. |
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| Sep-14-11 | | Colonel Mortimer: There's a saying in chess (apparently): If you can understand the strategic imperatives of the Ruy, the Sicilian and the Nimzo openings then ..... I forgot the punch line:) |
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Sep-14-11
| | Shams: <perfidious> I wondered if you'd agree. His questions was just sitting there, though, unanswered. :) |
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Sep-14-11
| | perfidious: <Shams> Indeed they were, and in my haste to respond to <KingG> some months back, I overlooked <aislas>' question or forgot to answer him. |
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| Feb-09-13 | | piltdown man: Nice pun! Don't know how many young people will get it, though. |
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Feb-09-13
 | | Phony Benoni: OK, I get the reference: it's a line from the movie "Casablanca". But it would have been a much better pun had the game been played at the Marshall Chess Club (which, alas, did not come into existence until 1915). |
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Feb-09-13
 | | Abdel Irada: Capa. Casa. What's the difference, as long as Blanca is involved? |
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Feb-09-13
 | | HeMateMe: We'll always have Paris. |
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Feb-09-13
 | | morfishine: Blank Check |
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Feb-09-13
 | | kevin86: White is a bishop and pawn ahead,time for black to strike his colors. |
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| Feb-09-13 | | jovack: Totally outplayed Frank, good game. |
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| Feb-09-13 | | drnooo: first off, it ain't no bloody pun, just
a title, referential, if you will, but
extremely, almost anyway, clever. And
the poster is right, to really make it work this encounter should have been at the
Marshall club, so it was a mite hasty
hurrying to jam it in where it doesn't really work, like Melba, in the Cincinnati Kid
shaving off a piece of a jigsaw, and
Shooter asks her, why do you do that,
and she replies so it'll FIT, stupid. |
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| Feb-09-13 | | TheTamale: <drnooo>: The Cincinnati Kid, yes, I remember him, a pretty good fighter. Fought out of St. Louis, as I recall. |
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Feb-09-13
 | | FSR: <sevenseaman: ... He thus keeps Marshall's Q hors de combat> Are you calling Marshall's queen a combative hor? |
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Feb-09-13
| | perfidious: <FSR> Maybe that is why I've been known to use 'horsie de combat'.....lol. |
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Feb-09-13
| | FSR: <perfidious> If you're looking for combative horsies, I recommend Bogoljubov vs Schmid, 1949. |
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| Feb-09-13 | | JG27Pyth: Marshall is like Bent Larsen to Capablanca's Fischer -- an undeniably great and memorable player, and yet, not in the same league. |
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Feb-09-13
| | Phony Benoni: <FSR> Or else A Lehtinen vs J Sietio, 1996 |
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Feb-09-13
| | perfidious: <FSR> Remarkable game-first saw that in Tartakower and Dumont's collection many years ago. |
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Feb-09-13
| | FSR: <perfidious> Me too! |
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Feb-09-13
| | FSR: <Phony Benoni> That's one way to circumvent the time control! |
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