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Jacques Mieses vs NN
"Mieses' pieces" (game of the day Oct-26-04)
Simul 1900  ·  Vienna Game: Stanley Variation. Monster Declined (C27)  ·  1-0


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Oct-26-04
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Well, if Mieses won't take the e5 pawn, Black might as well try and protect it with 6...Nc6, although Mieses probably would have been happy to play a pawn down.
Oct-26-04
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  patzer2: <xqdashi> <Saruman> Perhaps the nice win by a Master in Smolovic Mile vs B Lengyel, 1994 illustrates that Black is not without good defensive resources after 4. Qh5!?
Oct-26-04   sourcerer: the worst game for any black player ,i<would not read much into such filthy defence
Oct-26-04   Tonttu: What after 11...Kh8 ?
Oct-26-04
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  Chessical: <tonttu> It does not help:

<11.Qg6 Kh8> 12.Nxf7 Rxf7 (12...Kg8 13.Nxf6+ Bxf6 14.Nxh6+ Kh8 15.Bg8 Rxg8 16.Nf7#) 13.Qxf7 Nxd5 14.Bxd5

Oct-26-04
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  kevin86: "I hate those Mieses to pieces"-Jinks the Cat

A nice sac where the minor mieses-ah pieces-rat out on the black king.

Rather Pixieish of me-or rather Dixieish ya'll.

Oct-26-04   Saruman: <patzer2> Actually I analyzed yesterday up to about move 10 in the game you provided, but found that black seems to be ok. So my previous comment was more of a immediate reaction.
Oct-26-04
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  patzer2: After 11. Qg6! White's "double (tripple) attack" threatens three mates:

11...fxg6 leads to the mate pointed out by Sneaky.

11...hxg5 12. Nxf6+ Bxf6 13. hxg5 sets up 14. Qh7#.

11...Nxd5 or any other Black move allows 12. Qh7#.

Oct-26-04
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  Knight13: "I hate thoes Mieses to Pieces!" -- Amateurs of Chess Players.

Ugh.. Man! How come NN always loses! Not fair!

Oct-26-04
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  patzer2: Maybe I should have said quadruple attack after 11. Qg6!, counting <Chessical>'s response to the <11...Kh8> possibility pointed out by <tonttu> as the fourth option (in addition to the three in my previous post).
Oct-26-04   Phoenix: Great pun, <chessgames.com>!!
Oct-27-04
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  AgentRgent: <Knight13: Ugh.. Man! How come NN always loses! Not fair!>

Not always...
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...

Aug-13-06   Timothy Glenn Forney: Anyone else notice white sacrificed a pawn, but all the other pieces are still on the board.Very good pun indeed.This is a real one of a kind game.
Aug-13-06   sixfeetunder: Another great game in the same variation is Gufeld vs U Tarve, 1969
Aug-13-06   Timothy Glenn Forney: <sixfeetunder> Thanks for the link,I love Gulfeld's games.
Aug-14-06   Timothy Glenn Forney: <tonttu> 11...Kh8 is the best move,good catch.At least black has some chance with <chessical>'s line, by escaping the mating net.If 11...fxg6 12.Nxe7++ Rf7 13.Bxf7+ Kh8 or(Kf8) 14.Ng6# (black can interpose the Rook).
Dec-15-08   JimmyVermeer: This is game 4610 in Laszlo Polgar's "Chess: 5334 Problems, Combinations, and Games". Polgar transposes White's 2nd and 3rd moves, and includes the ending posted by Sneaky earlier - 11 Qg6 fxg6 12 Nxe7+ Kh8 13 Ng6# Instead of taking the Queen, Black might have played 11...Kh8, delaying his loss a number of turns. White seems to have a stronger position with 10 Nxf7.
Dec-18-08   thebribri8: This is the most beautiful mating attack I have ever seen. I have only said that twice before.
Feb-09-09   AniamL: What's the continuation after 11...Re8?
Feb-09-09   AniamL: I guess 12.Qxf7+ Kh8 13.Qg6 is good enough?
Mar-15-09   swarmoflocusts: <This is the most beautiful mating attack I have ever seen. I have only said that twice before.>

...But it's not a mating attack. 11...Kh8 prevents mate, although it does leave white with a winning advantage.

Mieses missed 10.Nxf7, winning easily (far more easily, in fact, than the position after 11.Qg6).

Mar-15-09   WhiteRook48: 11...fxg6 runs into mate in two. Brilliant attack!
May-01-09   JimmyVermeer: AniamL, 11 Qg6 Re8 12 Nxf6+ Bxf6 13 Bxf7+ Kf8 14 Bc4 Ke7 15 Qf7+ Kd6 16 Ne4#

There are lots of ways for White to win here. This is just one of them. Black's 11th move should be Kh8 or Bb4+.

Mar-30-10
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  thegoodanarchist: "Vienna Game: Stanley Variation. Monster Declined"

Who came up with that name?

Jul-25-10
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  rapidcitychess: The "Monster" is the famous Frakenstein-Dracula variation. 5...Be7 declines the monster.
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