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Ignatz Von Popiel vs Georg Marco
Monte Carlo 1902  ·  Philidor Defense: General (C41)  ·  1-0


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Oct-23-07   znprdx: <xrt999:> <dzechiel: White can parry one threat or the other, but not both. White's best try appears to be...> Ng3 right away...at least in blitz:) Rxd3[Q] 38.Rxd3[R] so if Black blunders with Bxe4? 39.Rd8+ now this is interesting
Oct-23-07
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  kevin86: This is one of those strange situations that occurs in these puzzles. If we think it is a puzzle,it can be solved easily-but if we play it over the board-the solution may not come.

Here,it looks like black will lose a piece,but in fact,can turn the tables with the double attack by Bg1-

In a similar game: Salo Flohr missed a bishop move to the same square to save the game---of course Flohr's move involved the moving of a WHITE bishop.

Oct-23-07
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  jackpawn: Normally I can find Tuesday puzzles in a few seconds, but this one took me nearly a minute. Apparently this pattern isn't established in my mind.

Funny how the mind works.

Oct-23-07
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  playground player: Bg1 rocks! Too bad Mr. Popiel didn't see it. Maybe he was too busy inventing the Pocket Fisherman.
Oct-23-07
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  patzer2: For today's puzzle solution, 36...Bg1! is a winning double attack, forcing White to surrender decisive material or get mated.

I'm surprised that Black resigned this easily won position.

Oct-23-07   realbrob: <What ELO do you think one is supposed to have to solve the problem quickly? Somewhere around 1400?>

Just in case someone interested in answering hadn't noticed the question..

Oct-23-07
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  gawain: I agree with <syracrophy> "If chessgames.com would have told Marco that after 36.Rd1 it was a Tuesday puzzle, he wouldn't have missed the shot 36...Bg1!!."

Probably the only reason I saw it is that the position was offered to us as a puzzle. I knew there was a Tuesday-type stunner lurking in the position somewhere. Given that, I found it quickly.

Oct-23-07   yalie: Bg1!! Ha .. probably the first time the first move I tried worked on a non-monday.
Oct-23-07   pawnofdoom: Hey I got it! You know something's wrong when the other guy's R is on the same file as your queen. Gives him too much tactics, and it turned out that one was possible this time. It's really funny to see a move like Bg1 played when the King is on h1.
Oct-23-07   MenisfromVenis: I remember this. Black should play Bg1, winning the Q or mating, but he actually resigned ! D'oh!
Oct-23-07   Ragh: Faced with a dilemma of choosing in between two winning prospects, Marco chose to unleash his third option - the mightiest weapon of all - RESIGN!!
Oct-23-07
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  TheaN: 2/2

What on shame for Black, who misses a win on the move where he resigns:

36.Rd1?? Bg1!

37.Qxd7 Qxh2#
37.Qg3 (Qh3) Rxd1!!
37.Kxg1 Rxd2 with an easy game for Black.

Oct-23-07   lau7aro: what a jerk, how come he has missed that? I guess he downright deserves the loss.
Oct-23-07
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  YouRang: <lau7aro: what a jerk, how come he has missed that?>

Hey, easy there sparky! :-p

He just wasn't able to see the one great move OTB amid a bunch of bad ones. He was not the first nor the last to do so. No reason to get personal.

Oct-23-07   Madman99X: Did black resign, or did he run out of time?
Oct-23-07   OBIT: Hey, I recognize this... in fact, I commented on the game last year. To repeat that comment:

I don't think Von Popiel was at all nervous waiting for Black's move, since he walked into ...Bg1 when he played 36. Rd1. In other words, he didn't see the shot either.

This brings up the following point: Sure, you can ridicule the folly of a player who resigns in a won position, but obviously if he SEES the winning play he will PLAY the winning move. From my experience, this is the kind of shot that you either see right away or you don't see at all. In this particular case, it seems clear that neither player saw it.

Oct-23-07   vibes43: It took some deep thought on my part but I thorouhgly enjoyed finding the solution. Then I had to figure out why the heck Marco resigned before the solution play. Good one.
Oct-23-07
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  Pawn and Two: <Madman99x> Marco did not run out of time, he resigned.

In this amazing game, Popiel could have forced a win by playing 35.e6! Qxe6 36.Rf8+ Kh7 37.e5+ g6 38.Rf6, or 35.e6! Rd8 36.e5 g6 37.Qxg6 Be3 38.Rf7.

However, Popiel did not see his winning opportunity on move 35, and then, only one more later, Marco did not see his winning opportunity. An amazing case of double chess blindness.

Oct-23-07
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  LIFE Master AJ: One of the most famous chess games of all time.

It is well known that both players failed to find the best move.

... and that Marco resigned ... in a winning position!!!

Oct-24-07   ongyj: <YouRang> Thanks. I thought it might be interesting in a case, where both players see different 'truths'(lines) in the minds and shout "I resign" at the same time... That would be a comical draw, I suppose? =) Or maybe, both players should be 'awarded' a loss? ^Ô^
Oct-25-07   Colonel Mortimer: <<lifemaster aj>... and that Marco resigned ... in a winning position!!>

I suppose it could be a wharped corollary for the times that people don't resign in a losing position..

Dec-14-08   WhiteRook48: Resign in a won position
By Georg Marco
Apr-06-09   WhiteRook48: 36...Bg1!! wins
May-26-09   WhiteRook48: with white's only saving line being 37. Kxg1 Rxd3 38. Bxd3
Dec-09-09   ka.chessmate21: whatever u do
think first!!!
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