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|Oct-03-05|| ||Richard Taylor: <percyblakeney: My Shredder likes 17. cxd5, followed by for example fxe5 18. dxe6 fxe6 19. Qh5+ Ke7 20. Rxe5. As the game went it much prefers 20 ... Rd8 rather than Qxd5 and then sees the position as fairly equal.> I saw Nxf7 but went for 17. c:d5 (as did your Shredder)& if f:e5 18. d:e6 19. Qh5+ (I also was working on that) - now I saw 1) 19. ... Ke7 20. R:e5 Qb6 21. Qg5+ and if Ke8 22. Rae1 Kd7 23. Qf6 Be7 24. Rd1+ wins
But also after 17 c:d5 f:e5 18 d:e6 White threatens mate in 1 - so 18. Qc7 19. Re5!! Bg7 20. Qd5+ Kg6 21. Re6+! wins and 20. ..Kf8 21. Rf5+ Bf6 (Ke8 22 Re1+ wins) 22. R:f6+ Kg7 23. Qg5# or 22. ...Ke7 or (e8 also loses 23. Qe6+ and wins. |
But back to 1) after 19 Qh5+ Kd7 20 R:e5 Qb6 (not Qd2 21 Re1) 21. Qf7+ Kc8 (or 21..Kc6 22. Rc1+ Bc5 - have to cocede I dont think I saw this - 23. Rc1:c5+ Q:c5 24 R:e6+ Kb5 25.Q:b2+ Qb6 26. Re5+ Kc4 27. Qd5+ Kb4 28. Re4+ and mate) 22. Rc1+ Kb8 23. Qe8 and mates or 22. Kd8 R:e6 - I didnt work all the variations out (I try do do it all in my head so to speak I dont use computers (I would use them but I dont have Shredder or anything convenient and I try to work them moves out myself first -but I dont disparage suing computers)) but I liked the idea of the mate threat with a pawn so much I thought 19 N:f7 wasnt the move - I thought 19 N:f7 K:f7 20 Qh5+ Ke7 (I didnt examine 20... Kg7 but 21 Re3 (or 21 R:e6) seems to cover that) 21 R:e6+ K:e6 but saw I couldnt check on e1 as the Black Q covers that square -but maybe now 22. c:d5+ Q:d5 23. Re1+ Qe5 but after the exchange or the Q White can only hope to draw. Hmmm Nezmeditinov played it well I missed his clever 19 c:d5 !
Because of <chessgames.com> 's question (answered by <hessam>) maybe my and <percyblakeney>'s idea was equaly valid - but in the heat of the struggle one cannot calculate everything - Nez was like a Tal
|Oct-03-05|| ||percyblakeney: In a game between humans 17. Nxf7 might be the best move after all, but after choosing 17. cxd5 myself I wanted to find out why it was "wrong" and Shredder unexpectedly didn't have any complaints about it... I'm not certain that any of the moves can be proved to be winning but they both seem to give good enough chances to win.|
|Oct-06-05|| ||schnarre: What's with 24...Qxe6??|
|Oct-07-05|| ||patzer2: White's 17. Nxf7!? appears to be a genuine demolition of pawn structure sacrifice, leading to a sharp but unclear position with practical winning chances for White.|
|Oct-07-05|| ||schnarre: <patzer2> It's a thematic approach!|
|Jan-27-07|| ||Richard Taylor: This should be -
But also after 17 c:d5 f:e5 18 d:e6 White threatens mate in 1 - so 18.... Qc7 19. Re5!! Bg7 20. e:f7+ Kxf7 21 Qd5+ Kg6 21. Re6+! wins and 21. ..Kf8 22. Rf5+ Bf6 (Ke8 23 Re1+ wins) 23. R:f6+ Kg7 24. Qg5# or 23. ...Ke7 or (e8 also loses 24. Qe6+ and wins -
But I overlooked 20... Kf8
|Jan-27-07|| ||Richard Taylor: Nxf7 is of course the logical attackimg method - the thematic demolition of the pawns around the Black King - starting with the base stone on f7|
|Sep-20-09|| ||birthtimes: Nice example of Spielmann's preventive castling sacrifice where preconditions include the opportunity for utilization by the attacker of open center files, along with opposing forces which are partly undeveloped and scattered (now look at the game again at the 15th move).|
|Jul-27-11|| ||jessicafischerqueen: <jaime gallegos: Nezhmetdinov was the USRR-championship several times>|
No, he was the RSFSR Champion five times. He never won the USSR Championship.
USSR Championships allowed players from anywhere in the Soviet Union- RSFSR Champions included only players from the "Russian Federations" in the Soviet Union- a much smaller pool.
|Sep-06-11|| ||Crocomule: Not that it matters... but wasn't this Yaroslavl '51?|
|Sep-25-11|| ||plang: The move that I had the most trouble with in this game was 5 Ne2 - I would never have considered it. The sacrifice on f7 is thematic and is especially strong after 15 c4!.|
|Sep-25-11|| ||Shams: <plang> For a while I was in the habit of declining Alekhine's Defense, which is amusing because somewhere on these pages is a record of a younger version of myself talking absolute rot about the opening. Anyway, after 1.e4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.e5 Ne4:|
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White's 4.Ne2! is strong. I'm surprised how many Class players miss this move, which is after all only the fourth move of a game in a very plausible line.
|Nov-07-17|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: Unless I can no longer count, the combined names have 53 letters. Whole lotta letters going on.|
|Nov-07-17|| ||Bubo bubo: <An Englishman: Good Evening: Unless I can no longer count, the combined names have 53 letters.>|
I can outbid that with the oldest instance of the Morra gambit in our database:
Kieseritzky vs C W Vitzthum von Eckstaedt, 1846
|Nov-07-17|| ||goodevans: Really nice game. <15.c4!> was particularly strong but <16.cxd5!> would have been even stronger than the line played.|
On the other hand <16.Bxf6> did lead to a very interesting Sunday puzzle a dozen years ago so we're glad he played it!
|Nov-07-17|| ||4tmac: < 17 PxP!! & 18 PxP!! > ....... 17.cxd5 fxe5 18.dxe6 fxe6 (18..Be7 19.Qd7+ Kf8 20.Qxb7 Qd8 21.Qf3
Qe8 22.exf7) 19.Qh5+ Ke7 20.Rxe5 Good Game|
|Nov-07-17|| ||morfishine: Another illogical and ineffective game-title. If a chess player were to follow this advice, he would never play like Super-Nez, never create any brilliancies, and most likely, never win a game, ever.|
We can safely flush this one down the toilet of bad ideas
|Nov-07-17|| ||kevin86: White wins on a skewer.|
|Nov-07-17|| ||ninja warrior: in b4 morph rants about a bad pun... oops too late.|
|Nov-07-17|| ||cormier: 1) +0.12 (31 ply) 6...e6
3.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 8
|Nov-07-17|| ||thegoodanarchist: 17. Nxf7 is definitely a Rash move!|
|Nov-07-17|| ||Boomie: ->
Super-Nezh was Tal's muse.
Tal said the happiest day of his life was when he lost to Rashid.
Nezhmetdinov vs Tal, 1961
|Nov-08-17|| ||Moszkowski012273: Naaaaa Nxf7 is not correct.|
|Nov-10-17|| ||Saniyat24: The total number of letters of these two players= 29+24=53...!|
|Nov-10-17|| ||Saniyat24: What a beautiful three piece combination when Nezhmetdinov plays 9.Bb5...!|
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