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|Aug-12-05|| ||Eric Xanthus: I was so happy to spot 26.Nd5 after a minute or so that I turned off my brain and didn't notice black can get out of it. I'm trying to console myself with the belief that I *would* have seen that it wins the exchange. =P|
|Aug-12-05|| ||ajile: I got it too but didn't see all the variations. I didn't notice C4 by Black for example. But the position is still winning for White. The key is the position of the Black Queen which looks very close to being trapped.|
|Aug-12-05|| ||erikcu: Chessgames.com come said this weaks theme was easy moves that are difficult to see. Today seems like a difficult move that is easy to see.
I too had it, but the clean up requires solid play.|
|Aug-12-05|| ||I Pawn You: Man, snap out of your delusional state, Eric. You would never get that. NEVER. This is utter madness. (No offense, yes?)|
|Aug-12-05|| ||Marius: <I Pawn You>
what do you mean ? you are surely joking with Eric
|Aug-12-05|| ||I Pawn You: For one, joking I am, for sure that is, says Yoda.
But well, actually, I misread what he said. I thought he meant he would probably see that if he'd reach that position in a game...which I think is very unlikely, because this is pretty mad. (He could be a GM for all I know, but meh, I'm talking based on the assumption that he's a regular joe, and that's an insane puzzle in my humble opinion.)
|Aug-12-05|| ||MaxxLange: I saw Nd5, threatening to trap the Queen, but not the defense with ...c4 too.|
This is an interesting position. Black looks much more active (the White Queen is passively placed, for example) but his pieces have lost contact with each other. His QR and QB are both undefended, for one thing. Also his Queen is trapped, of course!
|Aug-12-05|| ||erikcu: It is not that insane. It requires recognizing that the queen is in a bad position and that moving the knight to d5 cuts off her escape to all but b2. Then seeing that 28.Rb1 gives you a rook for a bishop. The tough part, in my opinion, is converting that advantage.
I did not have much trouble seeing the solid move, but I often mess up the follow up, or miscalculate an out for the opponent.|
|Aug-12-05|| ||erikcu: Right about having more difficulty seing it in a game though, but no worries there, I would have lost way before that point.|
|Aug-12-05|| ||jahhaj: White seems to be threatening very little so my first thought was 'How can there possibly be a tactical win here?'. I decided it could only involve trapping the queen and that's when I saw 26.♘d5. I also saw 26...c4 27.♗e3 ♕b2 28.♖b1 winning the exchange, although it did take me a little while to notice that the black rook is undefended. Just systematically searching the position for moves that might rescue Black should lead you to 26...c4.|
Easy to miss in a real game. This combination came out of the blue.
|Aug-12-05|| ||cuendillar: Even got the c4-line! Because it's Friday I realised he didn't have to take the knight. Little bit tricky to find the whole way through, but nothing that took more than a minute (lousy at estimating time so I may well be wrong on this)
Also, that I am going to play a tournament this afternoon may have helped with motivation as well.|
|Aug-12-05|| ||chumpioplaya: Very advanced, hopefully this wil help my game.|
|Aug-12-05|| ||2ndNature: Unlike the others I found today's puzzle easy, and not that tricky or insane at all. Interestingly I was struggling a bit yesterday and the day before yesterday. But today... |
First look at the position and you can see that White is in no position to threaten Black's King, so how can he win? Some pin? Maybe fork? A sac??? Well, talking about a sacrifice 26.Nd5 would be a candidate, but what does it achive? Hey, Black's Queen is running out of air!!! (if 26...Bxd5 then 27.Bc4 "Gotcha!") The escape through the 4th rank is not possible and the only square that remains is b2. What a shame, it looked so promising :( , can I do something that would actually make it work? Can I continue attacking the Queen _after_ Black plays 26...Qb2? Wow, there is 27.Rb1 and Rook on b8 is lost - true, I'm loosing a Bishop (27...Qxc2) and my Pawn on d4 is in danger, but I'm winning the exchange and my Rook is nicely placed on the 8th rank attacking Knight, Bishop and the King - should be enough to win the game.
Haven’t I missed anything? What if Black plays 26…c4 (to allow the Queen to escape to a7, for example)? Well, this blocks the 4th rank, so after 27.Be3 the Queen can only come to b2 and the rest doesn’t change (27…Qb2 28.Rb1 Qxc2 29.Rxb8 ).
Yes, now I’m confident that I've got the solution – thank you CG!
|Aug-12-05|| ||jahhaj: <cuendillar: Because it's Friday I realised he didn't have to take the knight> If only real chess was that simple! I guess in real chess it's Friday every day.|
|Aug-12-05|| ||trumbull0042: <erikcu: It is not that insane. It requires recognizing that the queen is in a bad position and that moving the knight to d5 cuts off her escape to all but b2. Then seeing that 28.Rb1 gives you a rook for a bishop.> Nice explanation.|
|Aug-12-05|| ||sfm: Sometimes when I see an innocent little move like 25. Qe1 I think about a famous Danish chess player, Jens Enevoldsen, who once wrote about an opponent: "...as a person and friend he is as straightforward, reliable and kind as anyone you could ever meet. I couldn't imagine he has even one single enemy.
Over the chessboard he is the most deceptive, sneaky and unpredictable svindler I have known..."|
|Aug-12-05|| ||paul dorion: <sfm> Exact! Black looked at least equal coming to that position. 25 Qe1 is annoying: After 25 ...Qd6 26 Nc4 black must take on c4 to protect e5 because of Ba5. White would get rid of d3 and have the two bishops for the coming endgame. The mistake is then 24... Ne8 , possibly Nd7 was better to protect e5 and prepare the queen retreat to d6. Nice trap!|
|Aug-12-05|| ||Eric Xanthus: <I Pawn You> The real insanity is allowing that I might be a GM. I am not even trying to be humble when I say that I am the worst player here--I really am. :)|
As for the game, I really enjoyed White's maneuvering after the queens come off. Fun stuff.
|Aug-12-05|| ||Robin01: I figured out Nd5 winning the exchange. However, winning the game after winning the exchange did not seem very easy!|
|Aug-12-05|| ||ReikiMaster: <Robin01> I agree. An important element of the combination is that Ne8 is unprotected giving white a crucial tempo!|
|Aug-12-05|| ||kevin86: White uses queen harrassment to gain the exchange-and win. ♘d5 sealed the queen's escape hatch.|
|Aug-12-05|| ||sharpnova: <I Pawn You> there was nothing about your opinion that came off as humble. you were being a big-time jerk. if he says he'd see this in a regular game then you owe the benifit of the doubt. how about you snap out of your delusional state? star wars isn't real.. it's a movie. it's not real life. no amount of camping outside movie theatres 3 months before the premiere will ever change that.|
|Aug-12-05|| ||sharpnova: btw i didn't really solve this puzzle. i decided Nd5 was the move, but i didn't even think about the exchange being won. i just looked at Nd5 Bxd5 Bc3 and figured that was why it was the move|
|Aug-12-05|| ||who: <2nd nature> what do you mean if 26...Bxd5 then 27.Bc4. Bishops don't move like pawns. Gotcha!|
|Aug-12-05|| ||YouRang: I didn't get it. I wouldn't have gotten it in a long, long time. Sigh.|
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