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Bruno Parma vs Gilbert Ramirez
Torremolinos (Spain) (1963)
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation. Poisoned Pawn Accepted (B97)  ·  1-0
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Jun-12-05  mack: It's odd, I'm feeling rather confident about my chess at the moment, I've been blitzing these puzzles all this week and I've not been beaten over the board for about a fortnight. Crumbs.
Jun-12-05
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  ahmadov: <Richard Taylor:> Actually, I have not used the word "always" in my previous post.
Jun-12-05  ricochetrabbit: This is my first post. I did not get this one. I thought 22 fxe6 fxe6 23 Rxg7 Kxg7 24 Rg3+ Kh7 25 Bg6+ Kg7 26 Bd3+ Kh8 (missed the possibility of Kf7) 27 Qh3# and was blissfully ignorant and therefore happy of getting the sunday puzzle. And then I saw the real solution and while trying to find the fault in mine, realized the possibility of 26 ...Kf7 . Alas..
Jun-12-05  MacKinnon451: I got this one up until Rh3! which I missed
Jun-12-05
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  OhioChessFan: <Ricohetrabbit>, I see you are in LA. It's my experience that most posts are made very early in the day, so don't be too bothered if you make a comment, ask a question, etc, and there's no response.
Jun-12-05
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  kevin86: THe puzzle was too hard for me,maybe because it was so easy for a sunday
Jun-12-05  fred lennox: White nicely sacrifices a pawn on move eight to develop his pieces and to weaken black's pawns. All the "queening around" does nothing to further a plan.
Jun-12-05
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  Richard Taylor: <mack> you might be a genius like Bobby Fischer or someone - quick - give up chess!!
Jun-13-05  penarol: I failed to see 25. Bh7. This move now reminds me the wonderful finish by Reti against Bogoljubow in New York, 1924.
Sep-28-08  beginner64: 14..d5? seems to be a huge mistake. I was expected Be7 or Rg8.

Even 13..Qa5 seems to be a bit questionable, Qc5+ might be a little bit better, or black could have gone straight to Be7.

Jul-09-17
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  RandomVisitor: If 21...Rb8! and black could even be winning. But instead, 21...h6 is played.
Jul-09-17
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Thanks, <RandomVisitor>, so I wasn't the only person who thought that 21...h6 was a poor move.

Finished with my first 7/7 week in a looooong time, but as usual when I solve a Sunday, the puzzle was too easy. Really, one only needs to a single four-move variation. Not too much to ask, even of my poor old tired brain.

Jul-09-17  stst: Hard to give up this line:
22.RxB KxR (if R ignored, Qxh6# next)
23.Rg3+ Kh7 (if Kh8, 24.Qxh6#)
24.Bg6+ fxB
25.Rxg6 (exf, Kh8, Rf7/g8, or Be8 - none could save Qxh6#..)

see what's missing.

Jul-09-17
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  agb2002: White has a bishop and a knight for the bishop pair and a pawn.

White has four pieces to attack the black king, starting with 22.Rxg7 Kxg7 (22... Rxc3 23.Qxh6#) 23.Rg3+ Kh7 (23... Kh8 24.Qxh6#) 24.Bg6+:

A) 24... fxg6 25.Rxg6 and 26.Qxh6#.

B) 24... Kg7 25.Bh7+ (clearing the g- and h-files with tempo)

B.1) 25... Kxh7 26.Rh3 and mate soon (26... Rh8 -or 26... Rfd8- 27.Qxh6+ Kg8 28.Qxh8#; 26... h5 27.Rxh5+ Kg8 28.Qh6 and 29.Qh8#).

B.2) 25... Kh8 26.Qxh6 and 27.Bg8#.

C) 24... Kg8 25.Qxh6 fxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qg7# (or 27.Rh3#).

Jul-09-17
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  morfishine: Hardly insane, remove the King's defender(s) theme <22.Rxg7>

Poor play by Black to get in such a position

*****

Jul-09-17
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  WorstPlayerEver: Too easy.


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Jul-09-17  mel gibson: That's not insane - it's easy - maybe I'm a genius?
Jul-09-17
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  DarthStapler: I got the first 3 moves
Jul-09-17  RKnight: Just for fun, there seems to be another way to skin this proverbial cat: 22 fxe6 Bxe6, 23 Rxf7 Kh2, 24 Rxg8 and mate follows. This was my first "solution" before trying 22 Rxg7, but 22... Bxe6 isn't exactly forced so there may be a way for black to wiggle out.
Jul-09-17  schachfuchs: Really not insane: the exchange sac 22. Rxg7 is the only reasonable attacking move and has to be accepted. The next two checks 23.Rg3+ and 24.Bg6+ to keep up the attack are also obvious. Only the final 24...Kg7 25.Bh7+ took me a little bit longer...
Jul-09-17
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  Cheapo by the Dozen: I went with 24 Rh3, but I fear it fails to 23 ... Rh8
Jul-09-17
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Jul-09-17
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  RandomVisitor: After 21.Rff3


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<-1.72/48 21...Rb8> 22.Rf1 e5 23.Qxd5 Qxd5 24.Nxd5 Bxf5 25.Ne3 Bg6 26.Bg4 Rb2 27.h4 Bh6 28.h5 Be4 29.Bf3 Bf4 30.Rh3 Bxc2 31.Nxc2 Rxc2 32.Bd5 Rd2 33.Bc4 Rg8 34.Rg1 e4 35.Bxf7 Rg7 36.Bb3 h6 37.Rc3 Be5 38.Rc2 Rg4 39.g3 Rxc2 40.Bxc2 Bxg3 41.Bxe4 Rxe4 42.Rxg3 Rh4+ 43.Kg2 Rxh5 44.Ra3 Rg5+ 45.Kf3 a5 46.Rb3 Kg7 47.Rb6 Kg6 48.Ra6 h5 49.Kf4 Rg4+ 50.Kf3

Jul-09-17  drollere: i got the startup, but not the finish. i had 22. Rxg7 Kxg7; 23. Rg3+ Kh7; 24. Bxf7 Rxf7; 25. Rh3 Kh8; 26. Qxh6+ Rh7 ... which goes nowhere. i visualized 24. ... pxg6 as adequate not realizing that 25. Rxh6 doesn't leave black the tempo to prevent Qxh6#.
Jul-09-17
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  patzer2: <RV> Thanks for the deep Stockfish analysis showing Black stands clearly better after 21...Rb8 to .

Instead, 21...h6?? allows the winning shot 22. Rxg7! (mate-in-seven, Stockfish 8) solving today's Sunday puzzle.

So instead of looking for a Black improvement in this poisoned pawn variation of the Sicilian Najdorf, we need to find something earlier to improve for White.

My suggestion is for White to ditch the unfashionable 10. Bxf6 = to , which was last played in 2012 according to the chessgames.com opening explorer.

Instead, the current popular move 10. f5 = to appears to give White equal or better chances as in the recent Super GM draw Radjabov vs Grischuk, 2017.

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