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|Jul-17-05|| ||patzer2: <sneaky pete> Thanks for the translation help. So, with your explanations, I assume:|
1. The Stellungsopfer (sacrifice leading to an improved position) is a subcategory or type of Scheinopfer (sham sacrifice).
2. The same is true of the Nutzopfer (sacrifice leading to increased material advantage) and the Mattopfer (sacrifice leading to mate). They start with or invovle a sham sacrifice, and are therefore a subcategory or type of Scheinopfer.
3. The wirkliche opfer (real or geunuine sacrifice) would always be separate from the other three classifications, since it doesn't involve or belong to the cateogy of "sham sacrifices."
Appreciate if you can let me know if I'm correct in these assumptions. Thanks again.
|Jul-17-05|| ||euripides: <patzer> Computer translation is always worth a try provided one is aiming for poetic or comic effects. The best of Babelfish is really quite sublime. Your programme was in a somewhat prosaic mood, however.|
|Jul-17-05|| ||sneaky pete: <patzer2> See Game Collection: "The Art of Sacrifice in Chess" by R. Spielmann compiled by <mjk> to see the clear jargon used by the (unnamed) American translator.|
|May-14-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 40 Kf2!!!|
|Oct-13-09|| ||WhiteRook48: who needs the second rook anyway?|
|Jul-19-12|| ||Memethecat: 24.Ba4 a great move, among many great moves.|
|Feb-17-13|| ||shatranj7: 26. BxR deserves three exclams, considering that if 26...QxQ, then 27.BxB ch. K-R1. 28. BxQP, and now white has deadly passers, and will soon win the exchange of black's rook for bishop. Excuse the descriptive notation, but I'm trying to learn it, so I've been using it lately. Studying "My System."|
|Dec-20-14|| ||kyg16: 40. Kf2!!! Beauty at its most.|
|Dec-20-14|| ||al wazir: OK, I'll bite. What was wrong with 24...Bd7 ?|
|Dec-20-14|| ||RookFile: I'm glad that no all of Petrosian's exchange sacs worked. Otherwise, the guy would have us thinking that a bishop was stronger than a rook.|
|Dec-20-14|| ||keypusher: <Dec-20-14
Premium Chessgames Member al wazir: OK, I'll bite. What was wrong with 24...Bd7 ?>
25.e6 Qxe6 26.Qd8+
|Dec-20-14|| ||Abdel Irada: <RonB52734: Also, Eskimos are said to have many words for "snow.">|
Surprisingly, it turns out that Eskimos have no more lexemes for "snow" than most languages.
|Dec-20-14|| ||Moszkowski012273: 23...Nc8 looks purty purty bad.|
|Dec-20-14|| ||Abdel Irada: Perhaps, but can you suggest another way for Black to avoid death on g7?|
|Dec-20-14|| ||morfishine: Obvious and tired puns like "Tall" for "Tal" are rarely funny|
|Dec-20-14|| ||Tigranny: A model game for how to play the Nimzo Indian as White.|
|Dec-20-14|| ||varishnakov: 40.K-B2 cool as a cucumber|
|Dec-20-14|| ||kevin86: A deadly rook file mate is in the offing.|
|Dec-20-14|| ||Skisuitof10: After 24...Bd7 25.e6 Najdorf's tournament book, p258. It also states that this games won the 2nd Brilliancy Prize...|
|Dec-21-14|| ||lost in space: <<al wazir>: OK, I'll bite. What was wrong with 24...Bd7 ?>|
24...Bd7 25. e6 Qxe6 26. Qd8+ Qe8 27. Qxe8+ Bxe8 28. Bxe8 wins a piece
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|Dec-21-14|| ||Cheapo by the Dozen: Going back to the translation discussion from a decade ago, "Schein" is German for "appear", which is why a Scheinopfer would be an apparent but not real sacrifice.|
I might have guessed wrong on Nutzopfer, however, as Nutz also means necessity.
|Feb-15-15|| ||gprice: Funny coincidence that both games
in the tournament between these two
ended with the move Kf2.
1st game: 41 Kf2
2nd : 40 Kf2
also odd is Taimonov winning both
games, now that was difficult to do
|Jul-23-16|| ||Robyn Hode: Dominate the dark squares.|
|Oct-10-16|| ||dashjon: I was going over this game as a side game to Reshevsky-Petrosian Zurich 53 round 2 in Kasparov's "My Greatest Predecessors III". I opened my worn Bronstien's Zurich 53, and read my notes from 1976. wow,awesome,wow.. * come back here! wow.. This is chess! wow Awesome! Kf2!! (Kg1-f2!!)|
|Dec-11-16|| ||plang: 9..b6 was played in a number of game in this tournament but is rarely played nowadays. 11 Ne5 prepares the advance of the kingside pawns and attempts to exchange off the knight on c6 depriving Black of queenside counterplay with ..Na5 and ..Nc4. In the previous game with 11 Ne5, Stahlberg-Samisch Dresden 1936 (White won), White had responded to 11..Qc7 with 12 f4; 12 Nxc6 was new. Bronstein suggested 15..f5 as the most consistent follow-up to 14..Nd7 with sharp play with one idea to answer 16 e5 with 16..b5 followed by ..Nc4; instead Petrosian's 15..c4?! left him with bo active play. As it turned out White benefited from the opening of the queenside with 19..b5?!; 19..Nf8 was an alternative. With 21..Nb6 and 23..Nc8 Petrosian clearly underestimated White's attack.|
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