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|Jan-14-03|| ||Sneaky: One of the all time classics!
We speak a lot about the power of the bishop pair, and the rook pair, but what can you say about a QUEEN pair?? A pair of queens will threaten mate 9 ways to Sunday. Only among great players like these could such a game not end with a mistake leading somebody's utter demise.
This battle is annotated in "My 60 Memorable Games."
|Jan-14-03|| ||Honza Cervenka: Another game with four queens is Edward Lasker vs Alekhine, 1913 |
|Jan-14-03|| ||ughaibu: Wasn't there one in the Alekhine-Capablanca match as well? |
|Jan-16-03|| ||PVS: I am sure you are right, but I could not find it in the database. Could one of those match games be missing? I think it was a win by Alekhine. |
|Jan-16-03|| ||ughaibu: Yes, a win by Alekhine as black in a queen's gambit. I couldn't find it either. |
|Jan-16-03|| ||Kenneth Sterling: I think you are looking for game eleven. |
|Jan-16-03|| ||Sylvester: Games with two queens on each side are cool. I heard if you are up one queen already, that it is a disgrace to get another before you go for the mate. |
|Jan-17-03|| ||ughaibu: If I'm one queen up and my opponent insists that I still find a mate I usually resign for him. |
|Jan-17-03|| ||Sylvester: When I play other middle school students it usually gets played out until the end. |
|Jul-12-04|| ||Sun King: Blacks two king moves (40 and 41) made me laugh aloud. There is a game against Kasparov in which Petrosian takes his embattled king out into the fray and into whites territory attacking a crowded field. |
|Jul-12-04|| ||Sun King: Tilburg 81 |
|Jul-13-04|| ||kurathedog: sun,
doesn't black have to move the king to defend against q-a5?
|Jul-15-04|| ||suenteus po 147: I must have looked at the end position two dozen times, and I still don't see why it's a draw. Doesn't Fischer still have 49.Qg2 to play? Petrosian can't exchange queens, so that leaves 49...Qh6 and it's still anybody's game. Please help me out here. |
|Jul-15-04|| ||acirce: Well isn't Black just better after 49.Qg2 Qh6 ? I mean White's pieces can hardly move and the d-pawn will fall pretty soon (king to c3, for example, knight to b2)|
White's counterchance seems to be the g-pawn so why hide away the queen on g2? Maybe just push it immediately with 49.g5. Don't know how 49..e4 50.g6 works though. Maybe not at all.
|Jul-15-04|| ||rochade18: Do not forget the time limit! Sometimes you have a slight edge or even an advantage but not enough time. It is useful then to make a draw. |
|Jul-16-04|| ||tpstar: Fischer made it clear in MSMG that he blundered with 47. Kg3?, because 47 ... Qxe4! won a Pawn and now White stands worse despite the passed g Pawn. But since Black had worked so hard for the draw, plus both heads were swirling after the 4 Queens business, Petrosian wasn't mentally ready to squeeze any win out of it, so draw agreed. Hopefully someone can post the exact quote. |
|Sep-17-04|| ||ForeverYoung: "After having fought so hard for the draw, however, Petrosian was obviously unprepared to readjust his frame of mind and start playing for a win. So ..." |
|Jul-19-05|| ||aw1988: While this is a wonderfully aesthetic game, you can't help wonder how much of its' publicity comes from the fact that it's Fischer and Petrosian, two of the top players in the world.|
|Sep-19-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: This is in FIscher's book, ... ("My 60 Memorable Games"); as Sneaky has already noted. (Game # 16, I believe, it is aptly named, "The Four Queens Game.") |
This is one of the most complex chess games ever played, as a teenager, I would analyze it over and over again.
It would be interesting to see a modern GM - who is known for his analytical work - (like Igor Stohl or John Nunn) come back and take a detailed look at this game. Just in the last 5 years, computers have become so much better, I am sure that many new discoveries would be made.
|Sep-19-05|| ||RookFile: I don't think John Nunn could be convinced in a million years to analyze this game, not after the mate in 4 fiasco with the Bolbochan game, lol.|
Huebner is a favorite of mine.
|Oct-04-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: It still gets my vote ... for one of the most complicated games ever played.|
|Oct-04-05|| ||Jack Kerouac: I played a game with 4 queens once.In San Francisco.
We ended up getting arrested.|
|Dec-01-05|| ||ProperRaveUp: Thats what happens when your "On the road,".........|
I wish someone would run parts of this game through HYDRA, to see if either side ever had a forced winning line.
|Dec-01-05|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: Nice game!
<I don't think John Nunn could be convinced in a million years to analyze this game, not after the mate in 4 fiasco with the Bolbochan game, lol.>
<RookFile> Which game are you referring to?
|Dec-01-05|| ||euripides: Fischer also expressed surprise at the riskiness of Petrosian's play in the middle game, after he had got a good opening. The king march reminds me of the game that Petrosian took off Kasparov when I seem to remember that something like Kc6 seriously disoriented Kasparov.|
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