| Jul-30-03 | | Ribeiro: A mistake made by Petrosian... |
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| Jul-30-03 | | ughaibu: Petrosian was somewhat known for a habit of extreme blundering, the most publicised case was probably from this game: Petrosian vs Bronstein, 1956 |
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| Nov-30-03 | | Spitecheck: Soltis or Suetin, don't know which haven't got the book on me right now, state that Petrosian's resignation was premature as he can play .....d4 and then ...Qd5. He probably resigned out of disgust, 7...Ng6 is a blunder in the Winawer is it not? Spitecheck |
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| May-03-04 | | ThePurplePimpernel: 'Twere definitely Soltis. Better to lose a pawn than the game! |
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| May-03-04 | | TrueFiendish: 7...Ng6 certainly looks contrary to many of black's ideas in this opening. 7...Qc7. |
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| Feb-07-05 | | eyalbd: In his book (in Hebrew) Liberzon mentioned 15...d4 but said that the position is lost anyway. I am sure Petrosian resigned out of disgust. I think it's the shortest defeat of a reigning champion ever. |
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| Aug-27-05 | | Titicamara: Is this his shortest ever defeat? |
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| Aug-27-05 | | percyblakeney: <Titicamara> Almost: Kotov vs Petrosian, 1949 |
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| Feb-08-06 | | darook: Liberzon (who was a funny good spirited gentleman) said about this game (he said it in the late '80s or so) something like (not an exact quote…sorry): "Actually, when I played the bishop to e3 I didn't intend to "win" his queen.
Then I saw the position and though to myself- "this is another Petrosian 'Queen Donation' (Petrosian was an infamous 'queen blunderer') how lucky for me!".
Petrosian looked very surprised after my bishop move, and for a few minutes I (Liberzon) and I think that he too - thought the queen was really lost!. Imagine, 2 top GMs missing a 'simple' beginner's move. I don’t feel too bad about missing that move, because the World Champion missed it as well…". |
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| Feb-22-06 | | Schlechter: how come you say its a queen blunder
isnt it a bishop blunder |
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| Sep-10-06 | | Boot1bullet: Tigran Petrosian was my favorite chessplayer. I can't imagine he blundered this way using his favorite defense(French). |
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| Nov-27-06 | | percyblakeney: <In his book (in Hebrew) Liberzon mentioned 15...d4 but said that the position is lost anyway> It's still a very early resignation, Rybka sees white as +0.59 after 15. ... d4 and it ought to be far from over, black is after all the World Champion. |
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Mar-12-07
 | | plang: Liberzon refers to 7..Ng6 as "an unsuccessful experiment". |
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Sep-24-08
 | | GrahamClayton: Does this game still hold the record for the shortest loss by a reigning world champion? |
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| Jan-03-10 | | swarmoflocusts: <percyblakeney>
Really? Fritz 11 sees that as +1.27, 19 moves deep. But Rybka is better... |
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Sep-17-11
 | | perfidious: For another method of avoiding the Poisoned Pawn (7....Nf5, popular for a time), see this crushing defeat of Iron Tigran:
Stein vs Petrosian, 1961. |
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| Mar-15-12 | | whiteshark: I'd like to repeat the question:
<GrahamClayton: Does this game still hold the record for the shortest loss by a reigning world champion?> btw, Tim Krabbe called it <the quickest regicide> in 2000. |
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| Mar-15-12 | | whiteshark: Against a lesser opponent, that resignation would have been early.
After <15...d4 16.cxd4>, White <'has the pawn and the compensation'>, as Roman Dzindzichashvili used to say, but Black could struggle. Suprisingly, he could even have struggled after <15...Qc6; 16.Nd4 Bxd3 17.Nxc6 Nf5 18.Qg5 Bxf1 19.Nd4 Nxd4 20.cxd4 Ba6> etc. and White still has some work to do. Understandably, Petrosian did not fancy being subjected to that kind of work, and was probably too disgusted anyway. ~ Tim Krabbe, http://www.irlchess.com/puzzles/kra... |
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| Apr-12-19 | | Caissanist: Soltis (in <Chess to Enjoy>) states that Petrosian simply missed the 15..d4 resource, and that was why he resigned. As Soltis points out, he had drawn worse positions in the Botvinnik match the year before. |
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| Apr-12-19 | | Granny O Doul: If it weren't for the fact that he resigned immediately, I'd have guessed that Black's ...Bb5 with ...d4 next was a deliberate sac to eliminate White's bishop pair and to dominate the light squares in the center. |
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Jul-13-21
 | | FSR: Weird game. The second shortest loss of Petrosian's career, eclipsed only by Kotov vs Petrosian, 1949. But he shouldn't have resigned this one! |
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Jul-17-24
| | FSR: <whiteshark: I'd like to repeat the question: <GrahamClayton: Does this game still hold the record for the shortest loss by a reigning world champion?>> Depends whether you count F J Perez Perez vs Alekhine, 1943, in which Alekhine was annihilated in 12 moves. That was in a blitz tournament. The present game appears to be the shortest loss by the reigning world champion at standard time controls. Even at rapid time controls I know of no faster loss by the reigning champion. There are some even faster losses, but none by the reigning champion. Anand was a GM when he lost A Zapata vs Anand, 1988 in six moves(!!), but he only became FIDE World Champion in 2000, and undisputed World Champion in 2007. Kasparov lost a blitz game in seven moves in Mamedyarov vs Kasparov, 2021, but he had lost the world championship long before. Karpov lost in 12 moves in L Christiansen vs Karpov, 1993, but he had lost the world championship, and only became FIDE world champion (if that counts) later the same year. Lasker lost in 14 moves in H Caro vs Lasker, 1890. According to Chessmetrics, he was already the strongest player on earth, http://chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/Sing..., but that only became official when he beat Steinitz in 1894. See my game collection Game Collection: Great players lose miniatures for more such games. |
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| Jul-18-24 | | whiteshark: <FSR> I think it's about a strict interpretation, i.e. tournament games played as world champion. I probably only started the Game Collection: 99 Krabbe's continued REGICIDE collection after my 2012 posts and it has also remained incomplete... Your collection could be valuable if I were to resume/continue my collection.
At the moment, however, I'm more interested in topics other than chess.
And time is the limiting factor of all life ;) |
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