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|Apr-10-14|| ||thegoodanarchist: Oh yeah, and the photo looks like move 42, maybe....|
|Apr-10-14|| ||thegoodanarchist: And this deserved to be GOTD from the first day of this website. What a sublime accomplishment by Fischer.|
Surely the former champ envisioned the position after move 32, but only then realized he couldn't take Black's h-pawn.
That is deep play by Fischer!!!
|Apr-10-14|| ||RookFile: I find the phase around move 47 to be especially fantastic. Petrosian is willing to play knight vs. bishop a pawn down, but Fischer won't let him because he knows it's a draw.|
|Aug-20-14|| ||HeMateMe: Is the ending a forced mate, or does black just pick off the remaining white pawns?|
|Dec-05-15|| ||SpaceRunner: Aug-20-14 HeMateMe:
Is the ending a forced mate, or does black just pick off the remaining white pawns?
In a way both. The attack will cost the rook and the pawns and end with mate.
Fischer was strong using his bishops!
But why on earth did Petrosian play such a lousy opening!?
|Dec-05-15|| ||offramp: <SpaceRunner:...But why on earth did Petrosian play such a lousy opening!?>|
Petrosian had played the same opening and won with it in the ninth game of his match with Kortschnoi: Petrosian vs Korchnoi, 1971. Petrosian won the match 1-0.
|Dec-12-15|| ||SpaceRunner: offramp:
|Jan-13-16|| ||Ulhumbrus: <SpaceRunner> C H O'D Alexander says so as well in his book titled <A book of chess>. He annotates the game Petrosian vs Korchnoi, 1971 in that book and says that the opening strategy which won Petrosian the match against Korchnoi lost the match against Fischer. One interesting question is what Fischer's argument or justification might have been for preferring his choice to Korchnoi's, apart from the result.|
|Jan-22-16|| ||perfidious: <offramp> Not quite the same opening.|
|Mar-06-16|| ||Joker2048: Amazing opening by fischer ...|
|Mar-06-16|| ||perfidious: <solskytz....It reminds me of some clever words from Kasparov, when he said that "in order to be able to beat Karpov, I had to learn how to play like Karpov".>|
As Alekhine had to emulate Capablanca's style of play in order to defeat him.
|Mar-06-16|| ||Howard: Correct ! Back in March, 1976, Andy Soltis said in CL&R that in their 1927 match Alekhine "played the most conservative chess of his life" in order to wrest the title from Capablanca.|
|May-27-16|| ||atypical: It's unclear to me if Petrosian could have drawn with best play. Kasparov's drawing line starts with 42. f4! gxf4 43. g5! fxg5 44. Nf3 and he gives two continuations with 44... g4 and 44... Rxa6. |
His second line goes
44... Rxa6 45. Rxa6 Kxa6 46. Nxg5 Ba5! 47. Nxh7 Bd8! 48. Nf8 Bf6 49. Nd7 Bh8 50. Nc5+ Kb5 51. Nb3
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51... Kb4? 52. Nd2 Bf6 53. Nf3 Kb3 54. h3 Kb2 55. Kd2 "and White has a fortress."
But Black has 51... f3! The idea is that by sacrificing the f-pawn, Black's bishop gains the c1-h6 diagonal; White loses control of the d2 square and Black's king infiltrates: for example
52. Nd2 f2! 53.Nf1 Bg7 54. h3 Bh6 55. h4 Kb4 56. h5 Bf4 57. Ke2 Kc3 and wins.
Or 53. Ke2 Kb4 54. Kxf2 Kc3 55. Ke2 Kc2 and wins.
|Oct-01-16|| ||Flemming: Lisitsin vs Botvinnik, 1944|
Fischer followed Botvinnik's steps here.
|May-26-17|| ||RookFile: Petrosian was essentially playing the queen's indian with white and saying that Fischer, not being a 1. d4 player, would not know what to do with the black pieces. It didn't work out for him.|
|May-26-17|| ||Petrosianic: Hardly. He played the same line against Korchnoi and won with it. Nimzovichian players play lines like these as a matter of course.|
And of course not playing QP openings with White has nothing to do with how often you meet them as black, so it really makes no sense.
Petrosian vs Korchnoi, 1971
|May-28-17|| ||4tmac: Bobby played the *white* side (trans) against Mecking a year earlier ... but 3...P-B3! was not played ... maybe the Iron Tiger should have sealed his 41st move. Don't know how much time Fischer had on his clock to absorb, but he wound up sealing his 42nd anyway|
|Jun-01-17|| ||tea4twonty: #include<s41> /*flapping feigenbaum*/ tig tak ten()|
|Jun-01-17|| ||4tmac: delta=0....yeah....no Lorenz Lepidoptera or any and all alternative alliterative alterations could stop this guy|
|Aug-30-17|| ||Albion 1959: Pundits and fans have waxed lyrical about Petrosian's win in game two and Fischer's win in game seven. but for me this was the game of the match. The longest and most difficult game, that put Bobby back into the lead and probably broke Petrosian:|
|Aug-31-17|| ||HeMateMe: such an instructive, interesting game, mirrors the positions we club players find ourselves in, having that extra pawn but not being sure how to turn it into a full point. Fischer makes sure all of white's dark squares are weakened, then enters the sieve.|
|Aug-31-17|| ||Coutinho: 3... f6?|
|Aug-31-17|| ||perfidious: <Coutinho: 3... f6?>|
The question mark belongs to White's third move, which allows Fischer the opportunity to build up a big centre with 3....f6.
|Aug-31-17|| ||HeMateMe: I've had black's position after ten moves in several games. It's playable as long as you don't have white checking on the h5-e8 diagonal.|
|Aug-31-17|| ||RookFile: Simply stated, Petrosian hoped to lull Fishcer into the type of position he doesn't normally play. Of course, this comes with the usual qualifiers that Fischer was a super-GM and as a chess professional he played over many thousands of games from other professionals who used different systems than him. You have to play something, and Petrosian decided that he's rather see Fischer in this type of system than a King's Indian, for example. Fischer's work at being an all around player paid off for him.|
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