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Apr-13-07
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| Jack Kerouac: <flekk17> Good call on the pun. |
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Apr-13-07
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| Richard Taylor: <flekk17: "Breakfast of Champions" was written by Kurt Vonnegut who died yesterday.> I enjoyed that book. Interesting style. I recognised it was ref to that -is there any other sig.? I forgot why Vonnegut called it by that title if I ever knew. Anyone know? I am sorry to hear he died. |
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| Apr-13-07 |
| e4Newman: Thanks cg.com for this gotd title. it was the only vonnegut book i ever read. i just liked the title, being a beer drinker - lol! it had nothing to do with the subject of the book. may future writers have the self-confidence to write as he did. |
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Apr-13-07
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| Marmot PFL: Sorry I don't recall Breakfast. "Mother Night" has a chess playing character, a Russian agent alias George Kraft who encounters the protagonist in NYC after WWII. |
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Apr-13-07
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| fja4: Vonnegut passed yesterday. So the title is probably just a reference to him. Towards the end of the book, if I remember, a waitress says "Breakfast of Champions" every time she serves a matini. Maybe Tal and Petrosian liked their Vodka Martinis? |
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Apr-13-07
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| suenteus po 147: "Breakfast of Champions" was the Wheaties slogan for a while. Vonnegut made it clear at the beginning of his book that he seeks no affiliation with that cereal brand. |
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| Apr-13-07 |
| Themofro: Sad that Vonnegut passed away, although i'm sure he preferred it that way and he was 84. One of the greatest science fiction writers, with an impeccable sense of humor. Author of such classid novels as Cat's Cradle, Slaughter House Five, and The Sirens of Titan. A voice of morality and conscience for the antiwar protesters during vietnam, and the people since then. A man who first hand survived the bombing of Dresden and would go on to write about the morality of it (among many other things) in his book Slaughter House Five, higly reccomended, as is the movie they made out of it. When comparing Hemmingway's death to his old age, he replied to the effect of: "When Hemmingway shot himself, that was the end, period. Old age is more like a semicolon". A great man who lived a long and fruitful life, thanks cg for this tribute. He will be missed. |
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| Apr-13-07 |
| diemjay: Sad news but at least we know Kurt is up in Heaven now... ;) That one should have him laughing the aisles. Hands down, my favorite author and I've always found him to be a source of inspiration. A beautiful human being. We love ya Kurt. Rest in Peace.
"I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different." Kurt Vonnegut
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Apr-13-07
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| kevin86: I thought it was rather funny how much impact the black rook at a8 had on this game,considering it NEVER MOVED. In fact,black moved neither rook until move 26--OK,I'm splitting hairs since I consider castling a KING move. |
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Apr-13-07
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| Sneaky: <Marmot PFL : "Mother Night" has a chess playing character, a Russian agent alias George Kraft who encounters the protagonist in NYC after WWII.> Also, Vonnegut wrote a short story that is completely about chess, called "All the King's Horses". The plot summary: an Army Colonel and his family and troops are captured. He is forced to play a game of chess with a Chinese officer, using the captives are human pieces. But there is a grisly catch: every piece who is captured will be executed immediately. He reaches a moral dilemma when he discovers a sacrifice that leads rapidly to victory, but the piece he must sacrifice is his own son. Showtime produced a mini-movie based on the story in 1991. |
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Apr-13-07
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| Duque Roquero: What if 28. Rgg1? |
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Apr-13-07
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| jmi: <Duque Roquero:What if 28. Rgg1?> 28. gg1 and ... c7 is crushing:-
If 29. a4 xa4 30. bxa4 xc2 with .... xa4 and .... b2# to follow quickly - White will quickly run out of checks after xf6+ h8 If 29. f1 xc2 with .... b2# to follow |
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| panthercat: <Duque Roquero> 28. Rgg1 loses by force to 28. ...Bb2+ 29. Kxb2 a1=Q+ 30. Rxa1 Qxa1#. |
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Apr-13-07
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| ajk68: What about 24. Nxe6
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I haven't worked out all the lines. Anybody see a good response on black's part? |
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Apr-13-07
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| ajk68: Make that 23. Nxe6 ...
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Apr-13-07
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| technical draw: From now on I'm playing 4..Nd7 instead of the routine 4..Bf5. |
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Apr-13-07
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| dabearsrock1010: VONNEGUT DIED!? That's horrible news. Breakfast of Champions is one of my favorite books. Cats Cradle is good too. That sucks though. |
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Apr-14-07
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| Richard Taylor: I also liked B of C and as <Themofro> points out he was at Dresden and wrote Slaughter House 5 which was thus based on it - it is comparable for it's time and being a modern classic to "Catch 22" etc My use of "and so on" is borrowed from Vonnegut. Lol. |
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Apr-14-07
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| talisman: <Richard Taylor> i believe Vonnegut said once that BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS> was a birthday present to himself...a way of putting everything that had gone before behind him.must have stayed on the bestseller list forever in the mid-seventies.seemed like you saw that bookcover everywhere.charlie rose has some good interviews.he will be missed. |
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Apr-14-07
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| fm avari viraf: It's a sad news that author Vonnegut 'BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS' left for his heavenly abode. Tal is the most aggressive chess player & Petrosian the most defensive player in the History of Chess. After defending his position so well, Petrosian gives a knock punch to Tal which leaves him defenseless. |
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Apr-15-07
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| Richard Taylor: <<talisman>: <Richard Taylor> i believe Vonnegut said once that BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS> was a birthday present to himself> I agree - I read the book not to many years ago. Great writing. Insightful. |
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| Apr-17-07 |
| ForeverYoung: Keres had some interesting things to say about this game: He rated 13 0-0-0 as dubious. He goes on to explain that this game was played toward the end of the tournament when Tal needed points. He adds that "... But in order to get the kind of position he wants, Tal is giving his rival considerable odds ... " He indicates in his annotations to the game as 20 Rdg1 being the losing move and gives 20 c3! as white's best chance backed up with some complex analysis which would be too lengthy to reproduce here. This is from "Power Chess, Great Grandmaster Battles From Russia" published by David McKay company inc. |
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| Mar-23-09 |
| Andrijadj: Tal labeled this game as his worst defeat ever... |
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| Jun-22-09 |
| totololo: The book title make reference to "Breakfast at Tiffany" - a famous movie at that time.... |
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Oct-15-09
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| hedgeh0g: <What about 23. Nxe6
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I haven't worked out all the lines. Anybody see a good response on black's part?> I think Black would play ...a1=Q+ 24.Rxa1 Bxe6. |
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