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|Jun-20-12|| ||kevin86: Tiger may have earned his stripes,but at least this time,Tal took them.|
|Jun-20-12|| ||drnooo: almost a miniature: should have called it
FAST & FURIOUS
|Jun-20-12|| ||Petrosianic: Half of Tal's wins beg for that description.|
|Nov-28-12|| ||chezzy: 23...Rf7, 24.Qf7, Kh8 25.Qg6, Kg8 26. Re7
Qf8, 27. Qh7 mate.
|Mar-02-13|| ||marljivi: 21...Bh6 22.Re8!!Qe8 23.Qf6Bg5 (23...Qc6 24.Bf7 )24.Qg6Kh8 25.Qh5Kg7 26.Qg5Kh7 27.Rd4Qe1 28.Bf1 .No,no,Tal is Tal...|
|Aug-29-13|| ||parisattack: I am impressed by how all White's pieces are gathered towards the center and ready to explode on Black position at move 18.|
Centralized pieces + open lines = combination.
|Aug-30-13|| ||paavoh: Tiger tanked in this game for sure. Surprisingly tepid defense by Petrosian.
Only seven B08's in the CG database to his name, so perhaps he was on unfamiliar ground.|
P.S. Closing in on my 1000th post here, must think of a snappy one to celebrate the occasion. Hmm?
|Dec-27-13|| ||Billy Pilgrim: 23..Qh4 and mate in 1 or 2 (via Qh7) unstoppable?|
|Dec-27-13|| ||shivasuri4: <Billy Pilgrim>, there's this beautiful combination after 23.Qh4, with 24...Re8 24.Qh7+ Kf8 25.Qxg6.|
|Mar-12-14|| ||andrewjsacks: <shivasuri4> Um. There is just a slight flaw there, my friend....|
|Mar-12-14|| ||chesssantosh: <shivasuri4> 25...Qxg6 loses to 26.Rxe1+ Bf1 27.fxg6|
|Mar-12-14|| ||Cheapo by the Dozen: The obvious try is 22 Rxd7, so that the knight may not get to f6. Lines include:|
22 ... Qxd7
23 Qh4 (Black moves)
22 ... Bxd7
23 Qh4 Rd8
24 Bxf7+ Kf8
Since Black starts out ahead a piece, we also have to consider the possibility of him declining the sacrifice. But in that case I don't think Black can stop mate at h7, as his pieces are blocking each other. Even if I'm wrong, White is ahead a pawn and has numbers when attacking both the c- and f-pawns.
|Mar-12-14|| ||Patriot: White is up a pawn for a bishop.
22.Qh4 looks like an unstoppable mate, except for 22...Nf6. So 22.Rxd7 eliminates this.
22...Bf6 23.Qxf6 threatening 24.Qxg6+ and mate next.
22...Bh6 23.Qf6 Bxg5 24.Qxg6+ Kh8 25.Qh5+ Kg8 26.Bd3 looks winning.
22...Bf6 and 22...Bh6 are a bit tricky for a Wednesday problem.
23.Bxf7+ is nice! I thought 23.Qh4 here but that gives time to play 23...Re8 24.Qh7+ Kf8.
|Mar-12-14|| ||Cheapo by the Dozen: Tal picked a different line than I did. Odds are he was correct -- :) -- but I don't immediately see why.|
|Mar-12-14|| ||patfoley: 25 ...c5 blocks mate|
|Mar-12-14|| ||al wazir: 22...Qxd7 23. Qh4.
Now why didn't I see that?
|Mar-12-14|| ||FSR: Wow. Not only did Tal not have to sacrifice anything to get this overwhelming position against Petrosian, he's even a pawn up! The obvious 22.Qh4 would be met by 22...Nf6, so White kills the defender first:|
<22.Rxd7!> My guess is that Petrosian resigned here. <22...Bxd7> 22...Qxd7? 23.Qh4 and mates. <23.Bxf7+ Rxf7> 23...Kh8 24.Qh4+ Bh6 25.Qxh6#. <24.Qxf7+ Kh8 25.Re7!> More accurate than 25.Qxg6 Bf5. <25...Qf8/Qg8 26.Rxe7> leaves White a piece and two pawns up.
|Mar-12-14|| ||FSR: Hmm, if only I knew how to count.|
|Mar-12-14|| ||lost in space: The combo is possible due to the dual threats on the h-file (Qh4) and on f7.|
The only way for Black to stop mate after 22. Qh4 is 22...Nf6
22. Rxd7 Bxd7
(22...Qxd7? 23. Qh4 with mate to follow)
(23. Qh4 Re8 (to avoid mate with Qh7) 24. Bxf7 is also possible)
(23...Kh8 24. Qh4+ with mate to follow)
24. Qxf7+ Kh8 25. Qxg6 Bf5 (I see no other option)
26. Nf7+ Kg8 27. Nh6+ Kh8 28. Nxf5 with an overwhelming mate attack plus material plus.
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Should be enough to win
|Mar-12-14|| ||newzild: <Cheapo by the Dozen> Nice try, but in your second line 25. Qb4+ isn't mate because Black has 25...c5.|
|Mar-12-14|| ||RookFile: I believe that Paul Morphy would have played this game in the same way that Tal did.|
|Mar-12-14|| ||RookFile: The two moves you look at are 22. Rxd7 or 22. Re6. The first is a clear win, the 2nd isn't quite as good. So, 22. Rxd7 it is.|
|Mar-12-14|| ||morfishine: Straightforward forcing attack
22.Rxd7 Bxd7 (22...Qxd7 23.Qh4) 23.Bxf7+ Rxf7 (23...Kh8 24.Qh4+) 24.Qxf7+ Kh8
25.Re7 Qf8 26.Qxg6 Bf5 27.Nf7+ Kg8 28.Nh6+ Kh8 29.Nxf5
*Black must play 22...Bxd7 so his rook on <f8> can move to give his King room to escape, but its too slow anyways
|Mar-12-14|| ||agb2002: White has a pawn for a bishop.
Black threatens ... Nf6, ... Qg4, ... Bc6, etc.
The black knight can protect h7 after 22.Qh4 Nf6. This invites to play 22.Rxd7:
A) 22... Qxd7 23.Qh4 and mate in three.
B) 22... Bxd7 23.Bxf7+ Rxf7 (23... Kh8 24.Qh4+ Bh6 25.Qxh6#) 24.Qxf7+ Kh8 25.Re7
B.1) 25... Qf8 26.Qxg6 Bf5 (26... Qf5 27.Qxg7#; 26... Qg8 27.Qh5+ and mate in two) 27.Nf7+ Kg8 (27... Qxf7 28.Qxf7 Rg8 29.Qxf5 wins) 28.Nh6+ Kh8 29.Nxf5 Qf6 (29... Bxb2 30.Q(R)h7#) 30.Rxg7 Qxg6 31.Rxg6 + - [N+3P].
B.2) 25... Qg8 26.Qxg6 and the double threat 27.Qh5+ and 27.Nf7+ wins.
C) 22... b5 23.Bxf7+
C.1) 23... Bxf7 24.Rxf7 Bxb2 (24... Rxf7 25.Qxf7+ Kh8 26.Qxg6 Kg8 (26... Qg8 27.Qh5+ and mate in two) 27.Re7 and mate next) 25.Ree7 with two extra pawns and the crushing threat 26.Qh4.
C.2) 23... Rxf7 24.Rxf7 looks similar or transposes to C.1.
|Mar-12-14|| ||Lykos: 23...Rxf7
24. Qxf7+ Kh8
25. Re4! 1-0
(if 25... Bg4 then 26. Re8+ )
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