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Mikhail Tal vs Tigran Vartanovich Petrosian
"Tiger in the Tank" (game of the day Jun-20-12)
USSR Team Cup (1974)  ·  Pirc Defense: Classical Variation. Quiet System Chigorin Line (B08)  ·  1-0
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Mar-12-14
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  Gypsy: What is the cleanest finish?

After the

<22.Rxd7 Bxd7 23.Bxf7+ Rxf7 24.Qxf7+ Kh8>


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Black position looks ruined. And it seems that and either <Qxg6>, or <Re4>, or <Re7> should quickly deliver a checkmate. But there are niggling issues left to sort out; such as, say, 25.Re4 Bg4. Now, Black position really is ruined, and White should certainly win the endgame after, say, 25.Re7 Qf8 26.Rxd7 Qxf7 27.Nxf7+..., but isn't there a more decisive solution?

For me, the most incisive continuation starts

<25.Qxg6 Bf5>.

(Black has no choice, <25...Kg8 26.Re7> is certainly hopeless.) But now, we have this nifty knight maneuver

<26.Nf7+ Kg8 27.Nh6+ Kh8 28.Nxf5...>,

which cleans it all up.


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Mar-12-14  BOSTER: If looking at such pos.( diagram) ,you can see the well known pattern ( next diagram ), it is easy for you to understand in what direction to play.


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White to play 19.


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Mar-12-14
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  chrisowen: A ramble d7 knight free fan fly in gaffer f7, kind giving to each good game in chow for I be,

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at h8 tergid hive in blew off f4 at a ratchet back try a free safe gents in g8 as king ghosting along back rank and file up d7 free give at d1 fly in d7 gg castle to be 22.Rxd7 Bxd723.Bxf7+ mate in eighteen creed he bins a f7 g8 emperors cued bind inceed rook in f8 re a bet affabled re-captured queen and knight proceeds to round up g8 via h5.

Mar-12-14  MountainMatt: Looks like 22. Rxd7 wins no matter what black does - if 22...Qxd7 23. Qh4 is a quick mate; if 22...Bxd7 23. Bxf7+ Rxf7 24. Qxf7+ is going to win...and that's all I feel like analyzing right now. :)
Mar-12-14  BOSTER: <Gypsy>. This is the forced line using your idea.

25.Re7 Qf8 26.Qxg6 Bf5 27.Nf7+ Kg8 28.Nh6+
Kh8 29.Nxf5

Mar-12-14  Patriot: <<agb2002>: Instead of 23.Bxf7+ in my line C, it is much simpler 23.Qh4 as already pointed out by <Patriot>.> Thanks <agb2002>--I'm honored! :-) But, you are consistently a better analyst!
Mar-12-14  Whitehat1963: Missed it. I saw the obvious 22. Rxd7, but I sure didn't see the need for 23. Bxf7+.
Mar-12-14  James Bowman: Didn't take long to see that the bishop was over worked with more tasks than he could handle. Force him to take back or lose a knight, defend the king or drop material. Oops wait a minute that makes material roughly even.

Of course the knight is also the potential defender h7 while the dark square bishop covers h8. Take away the knight before he can rescue the king and the queen delivers the mortal blow. Ok that is instructive on a slightly higher level and reveals my weakness of jumping to soon.

Mar-12-14  BOSTER: <Gopsy > Another variation 25. Re4 Bg4 26.Qxg6
if Bf5 Rh4 +
if Kg8 Re7
if Qg8 Nf7+
Mar-14-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Nice sac! Black is forced to weaken his position to submission.
May-15-14  phil6875: If Petrosian had declined the sacrifice this would have been the best line

19...Kh8 20. Qf4 Nc6 21. Nxf7+ Bxf7 22. Bxf7 Qf5 23. Qxf5 gxf5 24. Rd7 Bxb2 25. Rxc7 Rac8 26. Rxb7 Bc3 27. Be6 Bxe1 28. Bxc8 Bxf2+ 29. Kxf2 Rxc8 +1.23

Petrosian is only one pawn down and if there is a win for Tal it is some distance away.

Mar-21-15
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  Alex Schindler: The unstoppable force against the immovable object... But this game doesn't solve the age old question. The immovable object was clearly having a bad, bad day. Tal was in top form, and the results are awesome to watch
Mar-26-15  Poulsen: <chrisowen> You have been kibitzing here +4.500 times - and for all I know its the same roughly 50 lines of nonsensical rant every single time.

I know others has asked the same before: what is the meaning of this? Is it a joke or some sort of literal art?

If so let me tell you this: entertainers and artist needs to communicate with or convey an understandable message to their audience in order to be entertaining or artistic. And you are neither.

Get a life, man.

Mar-26-15
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Mar-26-15
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  offramp: <Poulsen> & <OhioChessFan> it is you two that need your heads examined. You might be the only two people left at cg.com that don't have that poseur on IGNORE.

DO IT NOW! and your experience here will be hugely increased.

Mar-26-15
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  OhioChessFan: <offramp> specific actually by among wrong. The across for consensus while yesterday you taking view similar majority. No, today's while past incorrect the simply considering are. Common to enough, but easy community has find spoken. Fact equation in the others reality atop while <Poulsen> immediate talking and consideration e pluribus unum.
Mar-26-15  Poulsen: <offramp> I will consider your advice, thx.

<OhioChessFan> plz. you are not Yoda and I am not using in my native language - so stop the parody - I am not amused.

Mar-26-15
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  AylerKupp: <OhioChessFan> Now, if you can only set your last 2 posts to music ...
Mar-26-15
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  chrisowen: <Poulsen> Sorry if again you like g5 first heavens above h6 comes at a price hollow would to give spark off team 5g an try back eg sac iron feint blane bull aint g5 hes a tricky customer scent re as on f7 have combo down fed call a vet choice flower thin pick 5g as maid in won knight f7 bishop better glide light smack down.
Mar-27-15  RookFile: This was an off day for Petrosian. Tal made him look like one of Morphy's opponents.
Mar-27-15  barabas: <Poulsen> you're right. Why write so many words when only very few understands? Its a waste of time and waste of space. We are on earth, not on mars. And making people think (or precisely get confused)is not really a profound idea...
Mar-27-15
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  keypusher: <Poulsen> Pretty sure the parody was not directed at you.
Mar-27-15  yiotta: Interesting final position. After 23.Bxf7+ Rxf7(forced)24.Qxb7+ Kh8 25.Qxg6 Bf5(if ... Kg8 26.Re7 Qf8 27.Qh7 mate)26.Nf7+ Kg8 27.Nh6+ Kh8 28.Nxf5 Qd7(or...Qf8 29.Re7)29.Qh5+ Kg8 30.Re7
Mar-27-15  yiotta: Interesting final position. After 23.Bxf7+ Rxf7(forced)24.Qxf7+ Kh8 25.Qxg6 Bf5(if ... Kg8 26.Re7 Qf8 27.Qh7 mate)26.Nf7+ Kg8 27.Nh6+ Kh8 28.Nxf5 Qd7(or...Qf8 29.Re7)29.Qh5+ Kg8 30.Re7
Mar-27-15  yiotta: Oops. <Gypsy> already covered this a year ago, sorry.
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