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Jeroen Piket vs Rudy C Douven
Hilversum 1988  ·  King's Indian Defense: Orthodox Variation. Classical System Neo-Classsical Line (E99)  ·  0-1
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Mar-03-04  Dick Brain: I suspect most of us saw the queen sac but many of us had to mess around for a while so to figure out the correct king hunt.
Mar-03-04  ZScore: I believe this puzzle has been previously posted on chessgames.com
Mar-03-04  Whitehat1963: Yet another picturesqe position for BL's collection.
Mar-03-04  Benjamin Lau: Whitehat, thanks.
Mar-03-04  Benjamin Lau: Thanks chessgames.com too of course.
Mar-03-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sneaky: Zscore, I think chessgames said on the Kibitzer's Cafe that they would be showing repeat puzzles for about a month. I remember seeing this too but we're ancient users compared to most of the people here.
Mar-03-04  Minor Piece Activity: Something just occurred to me... Is the king a minor piece? It's definitely not a major piece, but... Someone told me that a king is worth about 3 points in the endgame, so does that mean the king becomes a minor piece once it's in the endgame??
Mar-03-04  731: Ok nice queen sac/king entrapment, I thought the solution was the knight manouvere Ng6-Ne7-Nf5 (exNf5-Qxf5+, Kh2-h3, gxh3-Txh3#)

Maybe that works too...

<Minor Piece Activity>

According to a book on the basics of chess by Jacque Mieses I read some time ago, the king is worth approx. 4 points in the endgame, so yes, it is a 'minor piece' due to it's dynamic pawn-rieving king-blocking activity.

Something just occured to me too,

why is it that you can only sacrifice pieces when in the action of killing the enemy? I mean.. why can't you take your own pieces? isn't that realistic? shouldn't a white bishop be able to kill a white rook? hehe.

Mar-03-04  731: Hey Mister Lau I just had a look at your picturesque positions collection, I've got a game where the king get's mated in a crucifix, I made a little story about it too where a man is playing the devil to get his soul back and he's losing and then he mates the devil in a crucifix and the devil vaporizes and he gets to keep his soul.

Ok that story already existed but in the story he just moved the pieces into a crucifix he didn't mate in a crucifix. It wasn't a real game though so oh well.

Mar-03-04  731: Oh yeah I've also got a game where I mated my computer with a grand SPEAR I call it the spear mate it really looks like a spear too and the cool thing is you can only do a mate with that structure by mating with the king!

Yeah so now you guys have a little puzzle how do you mate the other king with your own king. for example Kc1#

hehe.

Mar-03-04  731: If anyone has the time I also have another brilliant puzzle (I heard it's a classic but I haven't seen it before)

Put the black king on g2.

Now put the white king on e1, a white rook on f1 and another white rook on h1, and finally a white pawn on g3.

White's move, mate in 3! (don't cheat with your computer it's real fun figuring the solution out if you can!)

Mar-03-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tigranvp: That was a little too obvious.
Mar-03-04  731: No it wasn't!
Mar-03-04  iceman7: I agree with Tigranvp, little obvious.
Mar-03-04  731: the queen sac or the rook sac?
Mar-03-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Capturing one's own pieces is a unique idea--on the reverse side,I saw a problem in which white delivered mate by promoting to a black piece:

White Ka5 Rc7 Bh1 Pb7
black Ka7

White plays b8(black N)*

just food for thought.

Mar-04-04  williampabllo: [Attention]: Se este diagrama valesse um "rating" mínimo, qual seria esse rating? Ou seja, qual seria o rating "necessário" para responder este diagrama?

[Portuguese]
Thanks - William from the Brazil

Mar-05-04  dr gogusetti n rao: <731!> A funny thing happened to me after I slept having failed to solve your little problem while awake. Believe it or not, I solved it in my sleep (or maybe half-awake some time in the middle of the night)! The solution is simple, of course: 1.Rf4 Kxg3 2.O-O Kh3 3.Rf3#
Mar-05-04  dr gogusetti n rao: <731> The third move in the above posting has to be corrected as 3.R1f3#
Mar-05-04  Lawrence: williampabllo, you mean, if problems are rated from 1 = very easy to 10 = very difficult, what would the rating of this problem be?
Mar-06-04  731: <dr_gogusetti_n_rao>

yes, congratulations, that's the correct solution, it's a nice solution though isn't it? since castling is very rarely considered in such positions it doesn't really cross ones mind.

I just read your profile by the way, why is Andersson your favorite player?

Mar-06-04  dr gogusetti n rao: <731> Thanks. I'm one of those few whose chess-playing competence has never risen to any proud heights over the decades; but I'm fortunate that I'm able to appreciate the finer points of the games of the great masters. I must have by now gone through the moves of the Anderssen-Kieseritsky's 'immortal' King's Gambit game (London, 1851) dozens of times with ever-increasing admiration, and I guess he has stood high in my esteem. I have a theory that these great players must be having a highly developed 'chess center' in their fore-brains (which I for sure don't have) that enables them to project their thinking laterally and in a linear fashion for an incredible number of moves!
May-05-05  Milo: Piket vs Kasparov, 1989
Feb-05-06  Z.Ramsay: Excellent play..not to mention the queen sac! KID owns!
Feb-19-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  KingG: Can someone tell me what was wrong with the immediate 28.Ba7?
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