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|Aug-25-03|| ||Qian: nothing white can do about Qg3# or the Qd2# that is silently waiting. |
|Aug-25-03|| ||patzer2: Zsuzsa Polgar masterfully combines two simple tactics to come up with a great combination. First comes the "deflection" pseudo sacrifice 23... Bc3!. Then after white's forced reply 23.Qxc3, black is able to complete the pawn capture 24. axb4 as a winning "discovered attack" on the white queen. |
The net result is black is up the exchange after the combination ends, with a queen rook and bishop to a queen bishop and knight. The rest of the game is a matter of excellent technique, as Polgar uses his material plus to maximum advantage for a quick victory.
|Aug-25-03|| ||patzer2: Zsuzsa Polgar is a Women's Grandmaster (WGM) in addition to having the Grand Master (GM) title. My apologies for the masculine personal pronoun "him" when I meant to say "using 'her' material plus to maximum advantage." In either event, this is a very instructive game and a very pretty combination. |
|Aug-25-03|| ||Marnoff Mirlony: The combination was simple. The only reason this is getting a second look is because it was a girl. Wow, a WGM found a simple move to win material.... |
|Aug-25-03|| ||JSYantiss: Qg3 will not be mate, Qian, as white can play Ke3 here. If white were to play Ke3 here, though, that would lose to black's Qg1+ followed by capturing white's knight. If black plays Qd2+, it won't be mate either, but it will force white into the queen trade and black's material advantage of rook vs. knight and pawn is about even. |
|Aug-25-03|| ||mdorothy: I hate to possibly sound derrogatory towards Polgar's skill, but it was a fairly simple combination. I discovered it in under 15 seconds. But, that is not in any way to take away from her excellence, for I would never get up to the point where the combination could be used. |
|Sep-08-03|| ||patzer2: Is it possible Polgar set a trap for her opponent with the interesting move 20...Ra8!? After white plays the "obvious" move to "win a pawn" with 21. Rxb4, Polgar's followup seems to practically force the winning combination after 21. Rxb4 h6! 22. Bxf6 [22. Be3 Nxd5!] 23. Bxf6 Ra2 24. Bc3!!|
If so, then Polgar's combination takes on more significance than a mere simple deflection pseudo sacrifice, followed by a discovered pawn attack on the queen.
|Jun-16-05|| ||erikcu: I have a feeling that Marnoff Mirlony is 'trolling' with the misogynistic tone of his comments.|
I think Chessgames.com has posted many a lesser game to illustrate a tactic or make a good puzzle. It seems difficult to say this was a simple puzzle, but I suppose high level chess players see it differently than an amature like me.
|Jun-16-05|| ||ThomYorke: The first thing to be looked was trying to move the light bishop to some interesting place(it would defende the rook on a8 and cause another threat).
After that, a double attack like Bc3 always claim our attention.|
|Jun-16-05|| ||DP12: Susan Polgar is not a WGM son, she is a GM and a Woman's World Champion. Of course most decent players would play ...Bc3 but then again most of the weekday puzzles are fairly straighforward(people have to work afterall!) The fact of the matter is, I doubt you would have said anything at all had a man had the black pieces. Dude just face that there are millions of women who could give you a spankin' in chess!|
|Jun-16-05|| ||WannaBe: Let us not waste our breath, Mirlony has not been seen since 2004. |
Anyway, I did not get the puzzle. :-(
|Jun-16-05|| ||jahhaj: I thought I'd got this one. After 23... d7 24. b7 Black traps the with 24... c8 25. b6 d8. Unfortunately I'd overlooked 24. c4.|
Solution was simple once I'd seen it.
|Jun-16-05|| ||chesswonders: A nice way to trap the rook.|
|Jun-16-05|| ||prinsallan: I must say I missed this one.
I am not ashamed though, bishops has never been my strength. I actually looked at the move and said to myself "Thats not it" LOL
Hopefully I learned something from this puzzle as many claims was to simple ^^
|Jun-16-05|| ||Dirk Diggler: I missed it too, and was getting almost all of them. Maybe like you, I was looking for a mate attack, or the rook file, and missed the dynamics of the piece swap.|
But then, thats why Polgy's a GM.
|Jun-16-05|| ||Stevens: I saw this move and the follow up but because it said "black to play and win" i was looking for a 3 or 4 move forced mate instead of a 14 move manouever!|
|Jun-16-05|| ||aginis: look at the position at move 17.
Polgar looks like she is in trouble!
she has no space, her light squared bishop is practically useless, white on the other hand is controlling the queen side with the two rooks and threatening activity on the kingside with Bh6 while keeping black locked in with the pinned knight.
17...b4! polgar has in my estimation already analysed the variation that leads to 25.Qd2. This isn't hard to imagine its only 8 moves and many of them are forced.
18. the knight must move if not a4 then 18.Nd1 doesn't really lead anywhere Ne3 allows h6 and Ng4 allows BxN PxB RxP NxR NxN BxQ NxQ Bc7 BxR RxB Rc8 Bxd6 Ndxb3 Rb1 a5 and black has two connected passed pawns. so that leaves 18.Na4
18...Nxa4 or either NxN PxN Bxa6 or 18...Ncd7 Nb2 and the queenside pawns are in trouble.
19.bxa4 a5 creates a strong passed pawn for black so 19.Rxa4 is forced
19...a5 or 19...Qb6 (to defend both a and b pawns) 20.Be3 wins a pawn.
20.Rba1 seems to force the win of a pawn but is actually a mistake.notice the improvement in Polgar's position more space on the queenside, on the way to an advanced passed pawn the light bishop can now post on b5. complete reversal from before.
20...Ra8!! protects both pawns as we shall see.
21. Rxb4 almost forced in order to get the rook out of a4. Otherwise R4a2 leaves black with a strong position after Qb6-Bd7-Bb5 in some order.
21...h6! distract the bishop on g4 removing the pin on the f6 knight.
22. BxN otherwise Be3 NxP ?xN BxR and black is still up the exchange. obviously not 22.Bh4?? g5!
22...BxB attacks the rook on a1 to gain a tempo
23.Ra2? is a mistake Ra3 is better Bc3 Qxc3 axb4 Qxb4 and material is equal RvNPP but black has developed her position significantly and created attacking chances against the b3 pawn.
23...Bc3 the LAST of several excellent moves.
24.Qxc3 axb4 and the pawn is safe thanks to the weak rook on a2.
what makes polgar a GM is not 23...Bc3;
21...h6 or even 17...b4 but moves like 20...Ra8!!
of course its easy for me to talk i did this witht the benifit of 20/20 hindsight. Polgar played this out without knowing where her opponent would make mistakes so she had to consider a number of other variations as well.
|Jun-16-05|| ||aginis: 34.Nf5 seems like a good defense for white. Threatening 35.Qh6 gxf5 36.Qg5+ Kh7 37.Qxh5+ Kg7 38.Qg5+ Kf8 39.Qd8+ perpetual|
if black plays 34...Qg1+ 35. Kg3 Qe1+
36.QxQ RxQ 37.Ne7+! Kf8 38.Nc6 Re3 39.Nxb4 Rxb3 with good drawing chances.
or 34...Qg1+ 34.Kg3 Qb6 and white can try for counterplay against the black king or b4
i could use some help on this one, maybe <crafty>?
|Jun-16-05|| ||awfulhangover: I solved it, but it took a few minutes. Bad.|
|Jun-16-05|| ||zb2cr: So, getting the exchange up for a Pawn counts as a win? That's the situation when the combination wraps up after move 26. I saw this, but figured that wasn't enough to count as a winning advantage. Kept looking for a long while for something better and couldn't find anything.|
|Jun-16-05|| ||zabbura2002: I've got only until 25. .. Rxa2 and I was not confident with the answer at first.. I thought that it has to do with Bishop at c8 but I couldn't get a good place for it to go... so the other possibility is bishop on the dark square..|
|Jun-16-05|| ||masterwojtek: <DP12> You have a mouth full of (you know what). |
I could help you with it, in person, in about 2 minutes.
|Jun-16-05|| ||YouRang: Groan - Missed it again! My just compensation for bragging about how easy the Monday puzzle was.|
Next week I will be more humble.
|Jun-16-05|| ||kevin86: An intermezzo fork employed by a Hungarian-How continental!|
White looked smart in taking advantage of a pin-but fell victim to a pitfall 23... c3!.
|Jun-16-05|| ||DanRoss53: <patzer2> & <aginis>: I couldn't agree more; 20... a8!! set the trap perfectly. Polgar was hoping for 21. xb4? all along.|
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