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| Aug-22-07 |
| newton296: < maj> I didnt even look at Qf5 ! that is an amazing move leading to mate after ...e6xf5? Bxf7+ ...Kf7 Bh6! mate!
thx for pointing out , enjoyed that move.
didnt look at what white does if declined . |
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Aug-22-07
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| MostlyAverageJoe: I just noticed that my previous posting is really hard to parse (I can't figure out myself what it is supposed to mean). I guess <newton296> must have read my mind, as he did make sense of it :-) Here's what it was supposed to say:
ABSOLUTELY ANY move that is not an outright giveaway of a piece is winnning. And some of giveaways only equalize. And the 20.Qf5 cutesy "giveaway" wins as well. |
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Aug-22-07
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| kevin86: A neat finish. Black either loses the queen after 22... d8 23  xc6+ or the king after 22...f8 23  f7#.Who would have ever guessed that from the starting diagram in the puzzle that BOTH players had promoted pawns earlier in the game? |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| HFlew: <znprdx> There are more women playing chess, compared to when I started playing (about 14-15 years ago). What I still find funny is the number of chess players who think that because I'm a class A player, my husband must be an IM or something. He's not! He barely remembers how to set up the pieces! |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| D4n: I want to play like a Polgar. |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| TopaLove: Easy to see this one. U have to explore the weak f7 square, since the king is not well placed. Also, I liked 20.Qb3, attacking the bishop on b7 and creating some threats. |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| mpmeints: I posted this earlier, but it does not seem as thought it went through... Please help me see what I am missing..
for balcks move 21 why not Bxf6 instead of queen take pawn. It gets material, clears an escape route for the King (via e7,d6), keeps the rook out of play since the white still has his own pawn blocking the way and the bishop is procected by the queen keeping the whites queen from attaching on F7. |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| LivBlockade: <mpmeints:> As several others have mentioned, after 21...Bxf6; 22. Qh5+ Ke7; 23. Qh7+! wins immediately. |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| mpmeints: What about K to D6? |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| mpmeints: Then the Knight fork at D7 takes the queen-but not an imediate mate as was mentioned earlier. |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| xKinGKooLx: <newton296: I didnt even look at Qf5! that is an amazing move leading to mate after ...e6xf5? Bxf7+ ...Kf7 Bh6! mate!> I thought 20. Qf5 was the solution for that very reason. I calculated the line out and although I wasn't convinced it wins, it was the best I could see. A move that counters it is ...Qc7, for example. I did look at 20. Bxe6, but I missed ...fxe6 21. Bxf6 and 22. Qh5+ afterwards. It would be interesting if someone could post some analysis on the Qf5 move, to see if it leads to anything. It's weird that I sometimes miss Wednesday puzzles and get Saturday puzzles... oh well. :) |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| xKinGKooLx: Oops, Qc7 does not counter Qf5 because of Bxf6. After looking at the position for several minutes longer, I am convinced Black cannot prevent himself losing material after Qf5. |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| krusheto: This is really cool. There are two ways to take the blacks queen after 22... Kd8 -> 23.Rd1 or 23.Nf7 I noticed one of them but the other totally escaped me. Great game by Zsuzsa Polgar!!! |
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Aug-22-07
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| fm avari viraf: White has a couple of candidate moves 20.Qf5 exf5? 21.Bxf7+ Kf8 22.Bh6#. Therefore, 20.Qf5 Qd6! & Black has parried the threat. Now, 20.Bxe6! fxe6 21.Bxf6 Qxd4? 22.Qh5+wins if 21...Bxf6 22.Qh5+ Ke7 23.Qf7+ Kd6 24.Qxb7 Bxe5 25.dxe5+ Kxe5 & after 26.Qxc6 White has a winning attack. |
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Aug-22-07
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| playground player: <mpmeints> What happens if Black plays 21...Bxf6, opening up an escape route for his King? A Knight fork of the King and Queen! 22. Qh5+, Ke7 23. Qh7+, Kd6 23. Nf7+, forking the royal pair and giving Black a royal pain. |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| bodybyjustin: I had 20.Bxf6 Bxf6 21. Bxe6 |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| xKinGKooLx: Thanks <fm avari virav.> I guess Qf5 makes things too complicated. I missed Qd6. But it's understandable why I thought it was the answer. Better luck tomorrow I guess. |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| TimothyFoster: Didn't see the Bishop move. I would have traded as follows: 20. Nxc6 Bxc6
21. Qxc6+ Nd7
22. Bxe2 Qxe2
23.Qxa8+ Kd7
Please comment! |
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Aug-22-07
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| whiteshark: I stpped after 20. Bxe6 fxe6 22. Bxf6 Bxf6 23. Qh5+ Ke7 24. Qxh7+ Kd6 25. Nf7+ winning the queen by forking |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| OBIT: I consider 20. Bxf6 more forcing, although it transposes to the main game variation after 20...Bxf6 21. Bxe6 fxe6 22. Qh5+. The flashy 20. Qf5!? doesn't work because of 20...Qd6, when White has to admit the move is a mistake and move the queen again. Of course, he (or, rather, she) is still winning. Amusing game, though -- in the diagrammed position, the Black queen on d8 is actually a promoted pawn! |
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Aug-22-07
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| MostlyAverageJoe: <fm avari viraf: 20.Qf5 Qd6! & Black has parried the threat.> No ! after Qd6 is justified. 21. Qf4 and black Q has to go back to d8, or the knight on f6 is lost. Now, 20...Qxd4 is a different story, and the correct response to the 20.Qf5 cutesy. |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| soberknight: Weird opening, I must say. I solved the puzzle after 3 or 4 minutes. I did not see Qxd4 as a defense, but the follow-up is straightforward, with Qf7 mate or Rd1+ winning the queen for a rook. |
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| Aug-22-07 |
| OBIT: <MostlyAverageJoe> You're right -- after 20. Qf5, 20...Qxd4! is surprisingly strong, even turning the tables. White doesn't have a good queen move, and pressing forward with 21. Bxe6 fxe6 22. Qxe6 fails to 22...Qd5! I guess there is still at least one way White can misplay this position. |
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| Jan-02-09 |
| WhiteRook48: multiple queens. and-- passed pawns in the opening???!!! |
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| Jan-21-09 |
| WhiteRook48: which is very UN-ordinary, people have to stop complaining about the positional game of 1. d4. |
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