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| Aug-10-04 | | resty: 15.Nxd6! Genius. Beauty. Judit. |
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| Sep-21-04 | | francescog: What if 14 ... Ne7 ? Black is cramped but maybe not in a hopeless manner... I can imagine something like 14 ... Ne7 15 Bg5 Nf5, but my imagination is not very good, I'm sure. In this way Black could castle, and he has always that extra pawn. Why did Shirov decided against it? |
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| Sep-21-04 | | samvega: After 14..Ne7 white could play 15.Nf6+ Bxf6 16.Qxf6 and black can't castle anyway. Also, white can play the same combination as in the game, but to even better effect. 15.Nxd6 Qxd6 16.Ne4 and white can't play Qxd5 due to the knight fork, or Qc7 due to the pawn fork, and if eg Qb8 white has Bxd7+ followed by Qxf7. |
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| Sep-22-04 | | francescog: <samvega> thanks, I had thought 14 ... Ne7 (which I disliked, but I was searching an alternative to Shirov's move) 15. Nf6+ Bxf6 16. Qxf6 but I had not seen that now 0-0 is impossible because of Bh6. |
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| Jan-26-05 | | GreenDayGuy: Black seemed to have over-extended his pawn structure, but Judit exploited it brilliantly. |
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Apr-21-05
 | | notyetagm: Anyone know how this game finished in voting for the Chess Informant Best Game Prize? |
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| Jan-31-06 | | harcee sarmiento: shirov thinks poorly and he is overconfident! i dont find him smart! |
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| Jan-31-06 | | Jim Bartle: This game was ranked #6 in Informant 64. Chandler voted it best game, Gurevich and Korchnoi ranked it high, and the rest of the jury more or less ignored it. |
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| Jan-31-06 | | Whitehat1963: Is 17...N8f6 playable for Shirov? Doesn't get him out of trouble, but he's badly undeveloped ... |
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| Jan-31-06 | | Jim Bartle: While I was checking this game's voting in Informant 64, I noticed something curious: 7 of the 9 judges rated the famous Kasparov-Anand game 10 as the best, Chandler rated it 3rd best, and one judge left it off the list entirely. Who was that last judge? Alexei Shirov. |
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| Feb-03-06 | | Jim Bartle: From "Fire on Board" (p. 155): "I was crushed with incredible speed." |
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| Feb-04-06 | | JoeStrummer: He has loss(es) in this famous book? Very modest fellow. I havent read F on B, but figured it was a collection of his Tal-like kills, didn't think there would be any losses included. |
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| Feb-04-06 | | Jim Bartle: There are some losses included in "Fire", mainly in the Botvinnik Anti-Meran variation, but this isn't one of them. The comment about being "crushed" by Polgar is in the analysis of a win against Nunn (Bundesliga 1995) which followed the same line through move 9. But yes, Shirov is modest and particularly generous in his book, giving credit for many of his innovations to other players, such as Yusupov and Shabalov. |
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| May-24-06 | | michiganling: The one thing I love most about this game is that when I play it through my copy of Crafty, it essentially reads the entire game as "book" until the final move, where it spits out a mating variation! Now THAT is an influential game. Just beautiful chess by the greatest woman chess player of all time. |
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| Feb-11-08 | | piroflip: the "monkey's bum" variation? |
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| Aug-30-09 | | Bobsterman3000: This opening by Shirov seems a little foolish since Judit is known for her hyper-agressive attacking play. He invited the big attack with his turtle slow development... |
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| Aug-30-09 | | chillowack: I agree, Bobsterman3000: Shirov neglected his development, left his king in the center...it's like he wanted to be crushed. |
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| Aug-30-09 | | ILikeFruits: by a woman...
no doubt...
:) |
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| Jul-28-10 | | tentsewang: Now this is what I call a true art of chess unlike today's tedious games by world class elite players. |
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| Aug-04-10 | | AngeLa: wow... this is really an Art to Chess... as a whole.. ^^v nice game sister judith ^^v |
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Dec-01-10
 | | sevenseaman: Utterly resourceless is rendered our Shirov. |
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Dec-02-10
 | | HeMateMe: They're about the same age, maybe 20 years old when this was played? What a sharp game. |
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Jul-08-12
| | notyetagm: Game Collection: notyetagm's favorite games |
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| Jan-25-13 | | smalldreams: A standard "Robatsch" fianchetto followed by FIVE pointless pawn moves as white builds an intimidating center. My kid could probably look at the board after move 7 and tell you there's something wrong with that. Judit Polgar plays this game brilliantly and deserves credit for it surely, but let's not overlook what a joke black's defense actually was after the first two moves. |
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| Mar-31-13 | | Hot Logic: <Whitehat1963>
After 17...N8f6?? 18.Rd1! and it is a fiasco for Black. Black's Knight is skewered behind the Queen by White's Rook. Plus Black either gets mated or loses heinous amounts of material. |
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sac: 15.Nxd6