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Dec-09-05
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| IMlday: As I recall, this game won the 1st brilliancy prize at the 1962 Stockholm Interzonal. |
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Dec-09-05
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| beenthere240: <dkulesh> If 20...Bxe2, then 21. Nf5+ Kg8 21. Nh6 mate. This bishop and knight position is a well-known mating pattern. In the game Black moved the bishop to e7 so that if 21. Nf5+ ... Bxf6. White's 21 move Qf3 destroys this defense since he is now threatening 22. N-f5+ and if Bxf6 then 23. Qxf6 and mate with the Knight to h6 is inevitable. |
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| Dec-09-05 |
| dkulesh: thx beenthere, greatly appreciated |
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Dec-09-05
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| kevin86: White's queen is immune at move 20 as white would mate by 21  f5+ and 22h6# |
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Dec-09-05
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| YouRang: <kevin86> You meant: <White's queen is immune at move 20 as white would mate by 21  f5+ and 22 h6#> |
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| Dec-09-05 |
| erimiro1: <dr.noooo>Not a healthy speculation. Portisch himself was one of the strongest GM's those days, and in Sousse 1967, he defeated Stein. I'm not sure that Tal, Geller and Korchnoi were much better (if they were) than him in 1962. He played the opening bad, and didn't get away with it. |
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Dec-09-05
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| artemis: <beenthere240> my line was after 19. Nxg7 Kxg7 20. Bf6 Kg8 That was the line Tariqov gave and he suggested 21. Qh5 with threats of #. I pointed out that this allows Be3, which delays the checkmate by a few moves. |
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| Dec-09-05 |
| The Saragossa Man: I didn't get this one; I don't understand how someone can calculate that exact line out. Maybe I just need more study of tactics. |
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| Dec-09-05 |
| Tariqov: <artemis>i see, i didn't find Be3.You Suggested that after 20..Kg8 either Qf3 or Qd2 but i think Qd2 is the correct answer if 21.Qf3thenQc8 so after 22.Qg3+thenBg4.or am i missing something again?? |
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| Dec-09-05 |
| Neurotic Patzer: <LIFE Master AJ>I don't want to sound conceited here but the only difficulty I had was in understanding why it was so simple as I was expecting some beautifully complex manoeuver, it being friday and all. This is the first week in which I've followed the daily puzzles here so I think I raised my expectations too highly for the friday puzzle. |
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Dec-10-05
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| notyetagm: <NP> No, of course this was easy. That's why you solved it so quickly and World Top 10 player Portisch missed it. |
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| Dec-10-05 |
| Neurotic Patzer: <notyetagm> Even the greats make mistakes. |
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| Dec-10-05 |
| hayton3: <Life Master AJ> <Surely you jest! I set this up for a group at a chess tournament several years ago, the gathering also had two masters and several experts. After 10-15 minutes, (between rounds four and five); not one person had the answer.> You're the joker round here - that story of yours is pure, fabricated farce. This puzzle is not exceptionally hard and the notion that a gathering of chess experts and masters should stare at this postion on the board for 15 mins in a state of dumb, befuddled helplessness while yours 'trolly' sits patiently; cretinously and smugly basking in the glory of his newly acquired chess quiz master status is too hilarious to contemplate. PS. Are you sure it was between rounds four and five? |
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| Dec-10-05 |
| notsodeepthought: <hayton3> AJ's story may make sense, provided the "rounds" refer to stiff drinks. |
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Dec-10-05
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| LIFE Master AJ: Next he will be telling us that he could give GM Lajos Portisch odds of "Pawn-and-move." |
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| Dec-10-05 |
| StraightLarsen: A certain uscf life master here is acting as if he owns the site.... And if being unkind to other kibitzers... See what happened on the odd lie page.... I'm sure I'll go on his ignore list for this and I hope so!!!!!!!! |
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| Dec-11-05 |
| ughaibu: Chessgames.com disabled LJ's ignore list long ago. It was over-taxing the server. |
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Dec-11-05
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| chancho: <Next he will be telling us that he could give GM Lajos Portisch odds of "Pawn-and-move."> I've never read a <hayton3> post anywhere in here, where he makes such a claim. You on the other hand, HAVE made some pretty outrageous claims. Morphy papers never before seen by other experts except you. Playing Mikhail Tal in a blitz game, and holding your own. Losing only on time.
(lol) You KNEW that if you had said you beat Tal, NO ONE would believe it. Hence your BS of losing on time. |
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| Dec-11-05 |
| ughaibu: This is a famous game and not wildly challenging as a puzzle, the thrust of LJ's posts about masters and the like not solving this and other problems, seems to be that even titled players in the US are both ignorant and not of master strength. Quite how this reflects on the LIFE master title is a conjecture whose temptations I'll resist. |
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| Dec-11-05 |
| hayton3: Had AJ ever sat down at the board to face off with Tal (as he claims), Tal's stare would have sufficed for AJ to concede and apologetically return the pieces back into the box. |
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| Dec-11-05 |
| notsodeepthought: <chancho: Playing Mikhail Tal in a blitz game, and holding your own. Losing only on time.> That's not such an unlikely story - here's a possible scenario: Tal (starting the game): "e4" (pushes the KP forward two squares). AJ (after five minutes without making his first move): "Dang, the flag fell - I resign. But I held my own until this point." |
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Dec-13-05
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| LIFE Master AJ: It would have been easier to understand if a certain party had said something like: "This is an easy puzzle, Fritz solved it so quickly. I was expecting something ... " |
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| Dec-13-05 |
| Averageguy: <notsodeepthought> LOL! |
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Dec-15-05
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| patzer2: If 19... Kxg7 20. Bf6+ Kg6,
click for larger viewthen White mates after 21. Bxe6 fxe6 22. Qg4+ Kf7 23. Qh5+ Kg8 24. Qg5+ Kf7 25. Be7+ Ke8 26. Rxf8#. |
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Dec-17-05
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| LIFE Master AJ: This game is analyzed in the Keene book on Stein.
The name of the chapter has the VERY cool title of: "The Hammer of Thor." |
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