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Oct-28-03
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| Open Defence: Yeah!!! hehehehe maybe they saw 1/2-1/2 as the result and gave it a skip, goes to show that it's the actual game and the ideas that are interesting more than just 1-0 or 0-1 |
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Dec-23-03
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| kevin86: How about "the immortal draw"! In that game,black gave away-all but the kitchen sink to get the white king to b5/c6,but could not mate him. |
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| Dec-23-03 |
| catfriend: I am sorry... But what game do you call "the immortal draw"? |
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Dec-23-03
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| refutor: "the immortal draw" = Hamppe vs Meitner, 1872 |
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Jun-29-04
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| IMlday: Astonishing game! Drop a piece in the opening and then casually make the game so crazily complex that a Rook one way or the other, doesn't really matter. the 'magic' style in chess.. ?? |
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Feb-09-05
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| IMlday: 4th example of wizard chess from that Amsterdam 1964 Interzonal. That tournament really influenced my development. White is up a Rook; why doesn't he win? |
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| Feb-09-05 |
| beatgiant: How would Black keep up the attack against 27. Bxc3? |
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| Feb-09-05 |
| beatgiant: Maybe the idea is 27. Bxc3 g3 28. fxe4 Qh3 29. hxg3 Qxg3+ with a perpetual check. It's a lot harder than it looks to refute Black's sacrifices. |
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| Feb-09-05 |
| beatgiant: And what about 29. Nac2? Then if 29...Kxg7 30. e3 e5 31. Re2, or 29...Bc8 30. Bh6 Bb7 31. Nf3, or 29...g3 30. hxg3 Bh3 31. Nf3 Rxc2 32. Qd4, Black's attack seems to run out of steam. Does anyone see a strong Black counterblow to 29. Nac2? |
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| Feb-09-05 |
| beatgiant: Oops, in my last post I missed 29. Nac2 g3 30. hxg3? Rxg3+, which was probably Black's idea. |
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| Feb-09-05 |
| beatgiant: But 29. Nac2 g3 30. Nf3 Rxc2 31. Qd4 looks good for White, as does 29. Nac2 Rxc2 30. Qd3. Does anyone else have a good suggestion for Black against 29. Nac2? |
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| Feb-10-05 |
| samvega: Doesn't 29.Nac2 Rh3 maintain black's threats? eg ..g3, and if the d4 knight moves, ..Bc6? |
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| Feb-10-05 |
| beatgiant: <samvega: Doesn't 29.Nac2 Rh3 maintain black's threats?>
I considered this too but was unconvinced. Did you find anything concrete after 29. Nac2 Rh3 30. Nf3? |
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| Feb-10-05 |
| beatgiant: To be specific, what I looked at 29. Nac2 Rh3 30. Nf3 gxf3 31. exf3 Qf4 32. Re2. If now 32...Qxf3, 33. Rg2 seems to leave everything defended, while if 32...Bc6 33. Nd4 Bd5 34. Qd2. Can Black do better here? |
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| Sep-03-05 |
| lopium: Ahahahahzzz!! Nice draw and nice game. |
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Jan-29-06
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| whatthefat: This is truly an astounding game; it certainly deserves more attention. Tal's ability to muddle a game, like no other, is seldom seen so clearly. The problems he sets for such a quality player as Portisch are simply incredible. I imagine Mischa would have had a good chuckle about this. |
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| Feb-07-06 |
| bitko: Another draw with opposite coloured bishops ! |
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Feb-07-06
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| who: Can someone post computer analysis to this game? |
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Feb-09-06
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| who: Since no one did, I took it into my own hands.
Not surprisingly Fritz dislikes 16...d4 (1.78 Bf5 0.82/10). It also dislikes 22...Rc3 (3.31 Nc3 2.53/10),
25...h5 (4.78 Ng5 3.47)
and after 26...hxg4 (6.22 Kxg7 5.10/10) it should be curtains. All Portisch needed to do was play 27.Bxc3 and after either 27...g3 28.Qd4! (28.hxg3? Qh3! and white can't avoid the perpetual) 28...gxh2+ 29.Kh1!(29.Kxh2 Qh3+ and the same perpetual) 29...Ng3+ 30.Kg2 Qh3+ 31.Kf2 white wins. I imagine that the first line gives enough complications that that's what Portisch was worried about. Or 27.Bxc3 Nxc3 28.Qd2 and white wins (7.69/13). 29.Nf3 (2.94 29.e3 Rxa3 30.Bh6 Rd3 31.Qe2 3.19)
31.Rf1 (0.00 31.Nc2 Qf2 32.Bd4 gxf3 33.Bxf2 fxe2+ 34.Kg1 exd1=Q 35.Rxd1 Rxc2 36.Rxe7 2.93/11) 31...Rxa3 (0.65 31...gxf3 32.exf3 Kxg7 33.Nc2 Bxf3+ 34.Rxf3 Qxf3 35.Qxf3 Rxf3 -0.66) 32.Qc1 (0.00 32.Bd4 gxf3! 33.Rxf3 Bxf3+ 34.exf3 Qxf3+ 35.Rxf3 +0.65/12) |
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| Sep-28-06 |
| ghaiethe: Wonderful Traw!! |
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| Mar-10-07 |
| HOTDOG: 27.Bxc3 g3 28.Qd4 gxh2+ 29.Kh1 Ng3+ 30.Kg2 Qh3+ 31.Kf2 e5 32.Qxd6 Nf5 33.Qxe5 Qh4+ 34.Kg2 Qg5+ 35.Kh1 Ng3+ 36.Kxh2 Qh4+ 37.Kg2 Qh3+ 38.Kf2 and White wins(from ''How to evaluate the position'',Anatoly Lysenko) |
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Sep-24-08
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| ToTheDeath: Beautiful bamboozling by Tal. |
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Feb-06-09
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| An Englishman: Good Evening: Yikes. |
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| Feb-21-09 |
| MrMelad: Wow!! What a game!
on 32.Bd4 gxf3 33.Bxe3 f6# mates!
This is what I admire about Tal, I can imagine his rivals pounding their head in despair... Portisch got all of black pieces but the king and black still hangs on. This chess can't be tought! Of course Fritz doesn't like it, but show me a human that doesn't love it :) |
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| Feb-21-09 |
| laskereshevsky: As I wrote some weeks ago in another page, talking about this game: <..how many times Tal had shocked the opponents with obscures conseguence's moves?.... Expecial vs. classical and positional players like Portisch, or Glicoric for instance...who know this game?!>
(I gived the above game link)
<Portisch vs Tal, 1964
Realizing that his just to be positionaly "squeezed" by Portisch, Tal goes to a rook sacrifice in change of...a doupled pawn!!. but after others "unsounds" sacrifices and astonishing moves the miracle came.... Portisch, looks to me absolutly confused by the crazy illogical Tal's play.... Of course the 1964's Tal had a much more "terrific" appeal, toward the opponents, then the 1976's ones...:)> .... (Reffering to your own past words between <brackets> Its..... ....A kind of self-orgasmic kibitzer feeling?!..... ) .:) |
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