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|Jan-15-13|| ||andrewjsacks: <somitra> Have not heard Anand's comments, but saw the similarity immediately. Somewhere today Akiba is smiling because he did it first and only maybe better, but Vishy's claim is genuine: his is an instant classic attacking gem, with very similar themes.|
|Jan-16-13|| ||Abdel Irada: As I played over this game, for some reason Wagner's "The Ride of the Valkyries" began to play in my mind's ear.|
|Jan-16-13|| ||Llawdogg: Yes, just like Anand's Immortal.|
|Jan-16-13|| ||FadeThePublic: this is a real immortal, not a prepped immortal...there is a difference and the way Anand tried to fake that it wasn't prep at the board was cheesy. Great game Akiba, he would beat Anand imho anytime.|
|Jan-17-13|| ||Abdel Irada: <FadeThePublic: this is a real immortal, not a prepped immortal...there is a difference and the way Anand tried to fake that it wasn't prep at the board was cheesy.>|
(1) Anand never, to my knowledge, made such a pretense. Can you show otherwise?
(2) There is absolutely nothing wrong with a prepared variation, as long as the preparation is one's own work and not that of a computer or another player, and there is nothing in Anand's game to suggest that either of those provisions applied.
|Jan-17-13|| ||FSR: <Abdel Irada: ... (2) There is absolutely nothing wrong with a prepared variation, as long as the preparation is one's own work and not that of a computer or another player, and there is nothing in Anand's game to suggest that either of those provisions applied.>|
I would be extremely surprised if one or more engines and one or more of Anand's seconds weren't involved in preparing this line with him. It would be crazy for a player these days to prepare opening novelties without using engines.
|Jan-17-13|| ||somitra: <andrewjsacks>: Here are the two videos where Anand discusses this game and mentions that the present game (Rotlewi vs Rubenstein) has the same ideas with Bishops on b6, b7. He praises Rubenstein's version highly saying that in his version, there is also Rxc3, Rh3 etc.|
|Jan-17-13|| ||Abdel Irada: <FSR>: True. I suppose I should have inserted an "exclusively" somewhere in there. :-)|
My point is that the preparation was undertaken by and for him, rather than simply being copied in its entirety from some other (dishonestly unacknowledged) player's work.
|Jan-17-13|| ||Calli: A game with a similar sacrificial theme is Marshall vs Schlechter, 1907 Marshall's pretty 23.h4! sets it up but Schlechter does not fall for it, so the mate is only in the notes. Actually played before Rotlewi-Rubinstein.|
|Feb-10-13|| ||Diglot: 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 e6 3.e3 c5 4.c4 Nc6 5.Nc3 Nf6 6.dxc5 <The main continuation here is 6.a3 a6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.b4 Ba7 9.Bb2 0-0 10.Qc2 Qe7> 6…Bxc5 7.a3 a6 8.b4 Bd6 9.Bb2 0-0 10.Qd2?! <10.cxd5, 10.Qc2, or even 10.Rc1 would be better here. This move costs White a tempo soon, though it wouldn’t have necessarily done so if it was followed up with 11.cxd5> 10…Qe7! <A subtle move that will soon show the imprecision of 10.Qd2> |
11. Bd3? <White loses a tempo with this due to Black’s next two moves. Better was 11.cxd5> 11…dxc4 12.Bxc4 b5 13.Bd3 Rd8 <This shows the point of 10…Qe7. Now White has to move the Queen again in order to get the her off the open file now occupied by Black’s Rook> 14.Qe2 Bb7 15.0-0 Ne5! 16.Nxe5 Bxe5 17.f4!? <An attempt at blunting Black’s initiative and simultaneously launching his own counter-offensive, but is possibly not the best move here. A safer alternative for White is 17.Rfd1 which, after 17…Qc7, could be followed up by 18.f4 (18…Bxc3 19.Rac1 Nd5 20.Bb1) or 18.Rac1 (18…Bxh2+ 19.Kh1 Qb8 20.a4). Another safe alternative is 17.Rac1 which would be followed by 17…Bxh2+ 18.Kxh2 Qd6 19.Kg1 Qxd3 20.Qxd3 Rxd3 21.Ne2. A more unintuitive move for White is 17.Na4, which could possibly be followed by either 17…Rxd3 or 17…Bxb2>
17…Bc7 18.e4?! <Imperative for White was to get a Rook centralized with 18.Rfd1 (18.Rad1 or 18.Rac1 are viable alternatives)> 18…Rac8 19.e5?? <The decisive mistake which gives Black a winning attack. As with move 18, White needed to develop a Rook to a central file> 18…Bb6+ 20.Kh1 Ng4! <The beginning of Black's decisive attack> 21.Be4 <There is no better move for White. For example: 21.Qxg4 Rxd3 22.Ne2 Rc2; and 21.Bxh7+ Kxh7 22.Qxg4 Rd2; and 21.Ne4 can be met by either 21…Qh4 or 21…Rxd3; and lastly, 21.h3 can be met with either 21…Ne3 or 21…Qh4> 21…Qh4 <Also winning is 21…Nxh2 (followed by …Nf1 and …Ne3)>
22.g3 <Again, there is no better defense for White. If 22.h3 then 22…Rxc3! and White has two options: 23.Bxc3 Bxe4 24.Qxg4 Qxg4 25.hxg4 Rd3 and White has a completely won game; or 23.Qxg4 Rxh3+ 24.Qxh3 Qxh3+ 25.gxh3 Bxe4+ and White has to either accept a quick mate with 26.Kh2 or stave it off for a while with 26.Rf3> 22…Rxc3!! <The point is to get rid of a protector of the e4 square> 23. gxh4 <Black may as well accept the Queen sacrifice, though 23.Bxb7 is White’s best response but 23…Rxg3 still gives Black a winning attack> 23… Rd2!! <The point is to deflect the Queen away from its protection of the e4 square> 24.Qxd2 <No matter what White does here, there is a swift mate to follow> 24…Bxe4 25.Qg2 Rh3! 0-1
<White resigns in face of the imminent and inescapable checkmate (e.g. 26. Rf3 Bxf3 27. Qxf3 Rxh2#). Note that Rubinstein played the correct 25… Rh3 instead of the blunder 25… Bxg2 which only leaves the door wide open for White after 26. Kxg2 Rc2+ 27. Kg3 Ne3>
|Feb-10-13|| ||andrewjsacks: <somitra> Right. Thank you. Yes, the parallels were obvious. Now a second great game with those themes, and no doubt there are a couple of others.|
|Feb-12-13|| ||SirChrislov: "Every great player has a game which became his visiting card to chess history."|
This was Rubinstein's.
Bravo Anand for the win against Aronian. Here's another one with "waves" of Rotlevi-Rubinstein, Polugaevsky vs Ftacnik, 1982
|Apr-09-13|| ||PawnSac: <FadeThePublic: this is a real immortal, not a prepped immortal...there is a difference and the way Anand tried to fake that it wasn't prep at the board was cheesy. Great game Akiba, he would beat Anand imho anytime.>|
familiarity with previously played positions is not a crime. Every one of us has learned elements of the game from previously played games. But how are you to know that Akiba didn't bring previous home analysis to the board? such an assertion is nonsense.
|Apr-10-13|| ||RookFile: This is just a beautiful game by a great chess artist.|
|May-23-13|| ||LIFE Master AJ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqvO...|
|May-23-13|| ||LIFE Master AJ: http://www.ajschess.com/lifemastera...|
By popular demand, I have added a few diagrams to this page.
|Dec-14-13|| ||MarkFinan: White looks sound here and then plays 10.Qe2 which even though it wasn't the losing move, it seems a bit odd to my patzer eyes. Brilliant game though, those bishops together on the b7-g2 and b6-f3 diagnals are always big trouble, even if you're facing a near novice. |
<By popular demand, I have added a few diagrams to this page.>
Then by an even more popular demand they were deleted, lol. Stop lying to yourself AJ because nobody else believes you pal.
|Dec-14-13|| ||john barleycorn: <LIFE Master AJ> fyi, this Rubinstein game is NOT the so-called Polish Immortal.|
This is the Polish Immortal:
Glucksberg vs Najdorf, 1929
|Dec-14-13|| ||john barleycorn: The most recent game with this opening
Anand - Kramnik 0-1
|Dec-14-13|| ||john barleycorn: This is the game Marshall-Schlechter which is mentioned in the notes (colours reversed):|
Marshall vs Schlechter, 1907
|Jan-19-14|| ||Zuainedison: Its similar to Aronian vs Anand, 2013|
|Feb-11-14|| ||jgodo: beautiful game, wonderful!!!|
|Sep-13-14|| ||LevonKarapetyan: In this game Georg Rotlewi vs Akiba Rubinstein 22th move is wronge (22....Rc3??). Becouse there is 23.Bb7!! and white is winning.|
|Sep-13-14|| ||Karpova: 23.gxh4 Garry Kasparov: <The queen has to be taken, since no hopes are offered by either 23 xc3 xe4+ 24 xe4 xh2 mate, or 23 xb7 xg3 24 f3 (24 f3 xh2) 24...xf3 25 xf3 f2+ 26 g1 (26 g2 h3+ 27 g1 e4+ 28 h1 g3 mate) 26...e4+ 27 f1 d2+ 28 g2 xf3 29 xf3 (29 xf3 h5+) 29...d2+.>|
Garry Kaspaorv, On My Great Predecessors Part I, Everyman Chess, 2003, p. 188
|Oct-21-14|| ||1 2 3 4: <LevonKarapetyan> No, white is NOT winning, Rubinstein just would've do Rxg3|
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