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Carl Schlechter vs Herzfeld
"Every Rook and Cranny" (game of the day Mar-02-08)
Vienna 1893  ·  Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit. Steinitz Variation (C29)  ·  1-0


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Mar-02-08
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  hedgeh0g: Schlechter had guts.
Mar-02-08   Samagonka: What a drunken game.
Mar-02-08   CapablancaFan: Can this game be any wilder?! Schlechter throws caution to the winds, and goes for an all out assault. He seems oblivious to the fact that his king is on the run and his back rank has been compromised. In the end, although down a queen, his remaining pieces combine like a well oiled machine to force mate. P.S. I would'nt recommend playing like this unless you're a grandmaster!
Mar-02-08
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  Breunor: Jimfromprovidence wrote:

There's a lot that pops out at you with this match.

First, black (misses or ignores) a draw by repetition with 13...Qh4+.

I looked up the chessgames database here. This position was reached 6 times. The other 5 games drew with Qh4. Herzfeld is the only one to play Nc6.

Mar-02-08
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  Sneaky: Too bad the "drawing masters" of today don't have the heart that Schlechter had.
Mar-02-08   gBizzle: that has to be the most retarted opening that i have ever seen in my life. It is as almost as bad as the aptly named "Incorrect Opening"(1.e4 a6 2.d4 a5).
Mar-02-08   Manequinho: Do you guys think Schlechter saw the mate(s) in move 18.Rb1?
Mar-02-08
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  whiteshark: Why oh why do people keep leaving the door open?
Mar-02-08   drpoundsign: you know it's and old game because he wasn't smart enough to resign.
Mar-02-08   psmith: Schlechter was 18 or 19 when this game was played.
Mar-02-08
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  Resignation Trap: <gBizzle> My opponent and I played this "most retarted opening" at the 2005 Tri-State Challenge in Jackson, Wyoming. But in that game (Karl Disher - James Kulbacki ) I forced a draw with 13...Qh4+. In my opinion, if White wants to avoid a draw, then 12.Bb5+ (instead of 12.gxf3) is the way to go.

About 25 years ago, I went through over 100 Schlechter games while preparing a magazine article about the great Viennese master. I limited myself to selecting five games, and I considered including this one seriously. Schlechter played many wonderful games, and it wasn't easy to decide which ones to include! This one didn't make the list...

Mar-02-08   MichAdams: Mad as a March Herzfeld.
Mar-02-08
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  JG27Pyth: WOW! This is like a saloon brawl with guys breaking chairs over each other's heads.
Mar-02-08
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  Gypsy: < Resignation Trap > Which games did make the list?
Mar-03-08
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  kevin86: I heard about a young cop who was looking over Mary Poppins and Fagen-his sergeant asked,"What are you doing? The cop answered,"Sarge,you asked me to search every crook and nanny". (and the audience laughed loudly as the curtain came down).
Mar-03-08
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  keypusher: <My opponent and I played this "most retarted opening" at the 2005 Tri-State Challenge in Jackson, Wyoming. But in that game (Karl Disher - James Kulbacki ) I forced a draw with 13...Qh4+. In my opinion, if White wants to avoid a draw, then 12.Bb5+ (instead of 12.gxf3) is the way to go.>

Probably the most famous example of 12. Bb5+, and a game I never tire of pointing out:

Chigorin vs H Caro, 1898

Mar-03-08
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  Resignation Trap: <Gypsy> Without digging through my "archives", I can remember that four of the five Schlechter games chosen by me for that article were: Schlechter vs G Marco, 1904 , Schlechter vs Meitner, 1899 , Schlechter vs Lasker, 1910 and Schlechter vs Salwe, 1909 .
Mar-04-08
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  Resignation Trap: I remember the fifth game, now: Schlechter vs Steinitz, 1898 .
Jun-11-08   number 23 NBer: What about 20 Bf5+ Kd8 21 Rd1+ Ke7 22 Rd7+ Ke8 23 Rb8#? It seems much quicker to me.
Jul-13-08   ravel5184: Hey <Minor Piece Activity>, here's another one for your collection!
Jul-13-08   ravel5184: Game Collection: King activity!
Jan-05-09   WhiteRook48: when a chased king is safer than a king castled QR...
Feb-05-09   WhiteRook48: wow, looks like the Short-Timman game in 1991
Apr-12-09   GrahamClayton: 10..ef3+ 11.gf3 exploits the pin along the 4th rank.

Later on, 15...Qa1 loses to 16.Bc6+, and:

a) 16...Kd8 17.Qd5+ Ke7 18. Ba3+ winning the Queen on a1;

b) 16...Kf8 17. Ba3+ also winning the Queen.

c) 16...bc6 17. Qc6+ Kd8 18. Qa8+ Kd7 19.Qh8, with White 2 pieces up.

Apr-25-09   WhiteRook48: 13...Nc6?
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