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Carl Schlechter vs Philipp Meitner
"Try as He Meitner" (game of the day Jul-25-2011)
Vienna (1899), Vienna AUH
Italian Game: Classical Variation. Greco Gambit Moeller-Therkatz Attack (C54)  ·  1-0

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Jun-05-20  Retireborn: Is there any information about the occasion of this game? It's not from the Kolisch memorial, but was there another tournament in Vienna that year?
Jun-05-20  JimNorCal: Gorgeous finish!!

28. ... Qe7 probably holds the balance?

Jun-05-20  Granny O Doul: 28...Qe7 invites an ending where White has a passed a-pawn supported by a piece, and his king closer to the action than its counterpart. It looks to me lost for Black. As noted above, 30...Qe6 was the losing moment.
Jan-07-22  RookFile: What a wonderful conclusion to a grand game by Schlechter.
Jan-07-22
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  moronovich: Yes, what a wonderful finish !
Apr-08-22  areknames: This was potd on chessworld today, which got me here! Gotta love 34.Kh2, one would look quite cool playing it...;)
Jan-19-24
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  Bishoprick: Sad to note on this page that Phony Benoni, who provided so many insightful kibitzes to these pages died some time ago.
Aug-01-24  TheaN: Somehow missed this gem of an ending before, and seeing some of the CG Greats (among others, Dom, Phoni and Daniel (as sneaky)) post on this makes me partially nostalgic and partially emotional... it's these brilliant sacrifices that brought a lot of the old-timers together here. A rookie when I started here, at 18, a rookie now, at 36... you guys will all be missed.

In all of you and Schlechter's fame: <33.Qxh6+! Qxh6 34.Kh2> and Black has no defense against Bf2#. Well, yeah, <34....Ne3 35.Bxe3>. But then the curtain falls, <36.Bf2#>

Aug-01-24  Allderdice83: I never saw this game before, but I saw the finish immediately. Had to do some thinking to make sure, but yeah, it's a forced mate (or win of queen if Black moves the king instead of 33 ... Qxh6, with mate coming shortly). Quite the finish. Sac the queen and the next move isn't even check, yet there's nothing Black can do to stop the mate.
Aug-01-24  BxChess: 33. Kh2 works just as well, although the queen sacrifice is still required if the knight intercedes on e3.
Aug-01-24  King.Arthur.Brazil: The king thinks many will find: 33. Qxh6+ Qxh6 34. Kh2 Ne3 35. Bxe3 Qh5 36. Bf2#. Otherwise W wins the enemy's ♕.
Aug-01-24
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  little ernie: Sorry to hear of the passing of Phony Benoni.
Aug-01-24
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  keypusher: Oh, wow! Schlechter vs Meitner, 1899 (kibitz #9)
Aug-01-24  latebishop: 33.Kh2 Qe2+
Aug-01-24  BxChess: <latebishop: 33.Kh2 Qe2+>. Your right. I missed that.
Aug-01-24  mel gibson: Nice one.

Stockfish 16.1 says mate in 13:

33. Qxh6+ (33. Qxh6+ (1.Qxh6+ Kg3 2.Qxe6 Kxf3 3.Qxd6 Nf4 4.Qxc6+ Kxg4 5.Qe4 a5 6.Be3 Kh5 7.Bxf4 gxf4 8.Qe6 Kg5 9.Kf2 a4 10.Kf3 a3 11.c4 Kh5 12.Kxf4 Kh4 13.Qg4+) +M13/95 92)

White wins _ mate in 13.

Aug-01-24
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  Teyss: I found it only because remembering seeing it in a book a long time ago and the sac impressed me greatly. Don't want to rub it in for those who didn't find it but it was a Monday puzzle back in 2011 (just teasing, TBH it's more than Monday level). The puzzle could even have started at move 31.

Philipp Meitner was Carl Schlechter 's client, albeit a small one with +0 -4 =0 and, would you believe it, that's their longest game. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che...

And wow again.

Aug-01-24
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  offramp: <Teyss:...Philipp Meitner was Carl Schlechter's client, albeit a small one with +0 -4 =0 and, would you believe>

I think Teyss sets a world record: Meitner...client...albeit...believe.

Aug-01-24  Damenlaeuferbauer: After long thinking, the very strong Austrian GM Carl Schlechter, who was just one draw away in 1910 of becoming the world champion (like Peter Leko in 2004), finally found the very nice queen sacrifice 33.Qxh6+!!,Qxh6 (33.-,Kg3 34.Qxe6 +-) 34.Kh2! and mate in 2 moves. Very impressive!
Aug-01-24
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  chrisowen: Hand jr u cabby its q Qxh6 abracadabra mib abridge its lag bot cam aoc jack ae its bob banal back u glock Qxh6 its eel :)
Aug-01-24
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  Teyss: <offramp: I think Teyss sets a world record: Meitner...client...albeit...believe.> 🤔

Oh, most words with "ei" or "ie", alternated. It's unbelievable the amount of weird and eerie posts on this leisurely site.

Anyhow, the Olympics. The most amusing yet shameful event to date was the last-minute postponement of the triathlon competition because the river wasn't fit to swim in, despite spending 1.4 billion euros (yes) to clean it. Thankfully the athletes were eventually able to dive into the... Seine.

Aug-01-24  landshark: A truly crazy finish -
One which I <maybe> would find OTB, depending on how alert I was in the moves leading up to it. Come to think of it, this is such an odd configuration I would have had to envision it ahead of time to steer the position toward it - highly doubtful in a real game /:
Aug-01-24  landshark: <Bishoprick> <Thea N> Another old timer who's wonderful posts I miss is <Patzer2> and unfortunately I fear the worst - Has anyone heard from him?
Aug-01-24  TheaN: <keypusher: Oh, wow! Schlechter vs Meitner, 1899 (kibitz #9)> Only now do I get this semi-meta self jab. Well played <KP>, well played.
Aug-01-24
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  playground player: Holy moly!
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