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|Feb-25-07|| ||IMDONE4: well, most of the time 3 pieces>queen, especially when there are alot of pawns on the board. the only times where 3 piece<queen is when the pieces r poorly coordinated, spread out, vulnerable to being taken, or the absence of the two bishops (2 bishops and a knight are much, much, much better than 2 knights and a bishop)|
|Feb-28-07|| ||Richard Taylor: Incredible game by Short!|
|Mar-26-07|| ||timhortons: miles should have choose another defense, you dont use pirc on guy like nigel short....|
|May-07-07|| ||Nigel Short: I recognise the game as mine, but it certainly wasn't against Tony Miles. Looks like yet another bogus attribution at chessgames.com|
|May-07-07|| ||Eric Schiller: The opening of this game is very popular and was the subject of a lot of theory. There are tons of games, at least 100 with the main line. So it was surely not improvisation. I haven't found the correct reference, but it should be in Pirc literature from ca. 1980. The game through move 14 was repeated just a few years ago.|
What is impressive for Nigel is not the queen sac, already analyzed, but his carrying out of the final assault. The real work was in the middlegame.
|Aug-05-07|| ||Jonathan Sarfati: Not just chessgames.com has falsely attributed the loser. I came here to check out what Andy Soltis bizarrely called it "the first Short-Miles game (London 1984)" ("Rethinking the Chess Pieces", p. 136).|
|Aug-05-07|| ||Tomlinsky: I can't find any record of either Short or Miles having played this game.|
|Aug-08-07|| ||sneaky pete: Black is Richard Miles (who may be the same as R Miles).|
Nigel: "This is one of my favourite games, played in the Greater Manchester qualifying section of the British Championship. Winning it virtually made sure of my going through to the zonal tournament."
|Nov-26-07|| ||DaveyL: Black never even moved his queen or queen's rook. What a disaster. Great queen sac by the young Nigel.|
|Mar-03-08|| ||FSR: Through 11.0-0-0, I played this line twice in tournament games, winning crushingly each time. As Dres1 said, rather than taking the queen, 6...Nd7! is the move; 6...Ng4!? 7.e6 Nxd4 8.Qxg4 Nxc2+ is also playable. Nonetheless, the last I heard, taking the queen is also playable if Black plays 11...Be6! 12.Bex6 fxe6.|
|Mar-04-08|| ||RandomVisitor: White might try to improve with 9.Bxe2.|
|Apr-20-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 7 exf6!!!|
|Feb-01-10|| ||pskogli: I did a guess the move on this game, scored par with blitz timelimit.
Why is good GM games so easy to follow?|
|Feb-01-10|| ||patzer3844: i have the exact same quuestion with chicago chess man:why back doesnt try to castle?|
|Aug-18-10|| ||sevenseaman: This is not Tony Miles. Still at times I feel Short fell far short of his real potential.|
|Sep-25-10|| ||perfidious: While I played into this mess for Black thrice in the 1970s and 1980s, I wouldn't again; later, I tried another complex line: 6....Ng4 7.e6 Nxd4 8.Qxg4 Nxc2+.|
|Feb-10-11|| ||Millz: Short could play some wicked games, def one of the best.|
|Apr-13-11|| ||perfidious: <FSR: As Dres1 said, rather than taking the queen, 6...Nd7! is the move; 6...Ng4!? 7.e6 Nxd4 8.Qxg4 Nxc2+ is also playable. Nonetheless, the last I heard, taking the queen is also playable if Black plays 11...Be6! 12.Bex6 fxe6.>|
I once tried 6....Nd7 against Wolff and got a decent position (I think), and would probably play it today.
In 1979, I played 11....Be6 12.Bxe6 fxe6 against Jim Rizzitano; his response was 13.f4, after which he eventually won, as I didn't play actively enough with ....Qd7, followed by 1....e5 2.fxe5 Qg4. Four years later, Rizzitano lost a game in this line to the New Hampshire master Gary Nute when the latter tried the idea.
|Oct-29-11|| ||hedgeh0g: If this hadn't already been GOTD, I'd suggest the title: "Activity with Minors". :P|
|Apr-05-12|| ||Interbond: Here is another game in this opening line from 1979.|
Jøran (Aulin) Jansson- Svein G. Myreng
1.e4 d6 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.d4 Bg7 5.Qe2 Nc6 6.e5 Nc6 7.exf6 Nxe2 8.fxg7 Rg8 9.Ngxe2 Rxg7 10.Bh6 Rg8 11.h4 Bf5 12.0-0-0 c6 13.Rhe1 b5 14.Bb3 a5 15.Nd4 Qc7 16.Ndxb5 cxb5 17.Nxb5 1-0
|Apr-05-12|| ||King Death: <Interbond> Here are a couple of games with 11.h4 where Black plays 11...Be6 instead. This looks better than the way Myreng tried to open up the position in the game that you posted.|
One of the problems with this variation after the queen sacrifice is that it's hard for Black to come up with something to do that doesn't let White's active pieces in.
|Sep-01-12|| ||vinidivici: good pun!|
|Sep-10-12|| ||KaleyK: castling the king might have been a good idea .....|
|May-10-13|| ||perfidious: <FSR>: Returning to this game after a while, I recollected a note by Nunn in one of his Pirc books of long ago where, after the move 11....Be6 12.Bxe6 fxe6, White tries 13.Nf4 instead, after which play has gone 13....Qd7 14.Rhe1 e5 15.Rxe5, when both the middlegame following 15....Qg4 or ....0-0-0 and ending after 15....dxe5 16.Rxd7 Kxd7 17.Nd3 look depressing for Black.|
Believe Nunn cited a game in the latter, mentioning that White's win was not terribly convincing, but I'd take the three minors all day over the two rooks, which have little to do without open lines.
|May-10-13|| ||FSR: <perfidious: ... I'd take the three minors all day over the two rooks, which have little to do without open lines.>|
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