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| May-26-09 |
| weary willy: Never mind the great king walk (and I think it's excellent) I'm struggling with the punny title again. I guess the walk refers to the king's march and we have "short" in the phrase ... which is used like the north American dismissal "Take a hike!" - but why change "pier" to "peer"? |
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May-26-09
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| blacksburg: because Timman was a <peer> of Nigel <Short>. |
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May-26-09
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| jahhaj: <weary willy> because cg.com can't spell |
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| May-26-09 |
| gus inn: The kings journey should not be that hard to find (due to the absence of black counterplay)- but it allways amazes to see it. Talking about beeing weak on the dark squares ! . |
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| May-26-09 |
| dragomaster: Here is anouther king march, this time by Kramnik.
Kramnik vs Leko, 2004 |
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| May-26-09 |
| Fanacas: Isent steinitz one of the greatest king walkers ever ? He has many games with king walks. |
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May-26-09
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| waustad: The <peer> is because Short is an MBE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBE |
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| May-26-09 |
| arnaud1959: How to forget this King March:Spassky vs Fischer, 1992
A King who goes far to grab a pawn and then comes back. |
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| May-26-09 |
| UnsoundHero: Strong computer programs have trouble visualizing the king as a fighting piece in the middlegame. Perhaps computers are programmed to assume that their king should always hide behind pawns and pieces in a middlegame. Tal once had a game with white, where he castled Q-side, and forced a queenless middlegame where black had positional weaknesses, with black pawns on c6 & d5. But it wasn't obvious yet how to exploit this. So Tal played his king to the middle of the board! Kc1, Kd2, Kc3, Kd4, all within 5 moves! I wonder if a super computer would see Tal's king manoevre. |
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May-26-09
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| blacksburg: Tal vs Lisitsin, 1956 crazy game. |
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| May-26-09 |
| randomsac: I remember this game as the example in the <tips for writing good puns> section in the official rules for the pun contest. When I read the pun and saw the game, I started laughing. This is one of the few puns so far that I really appreciated. Also, the king march is just brutal, especially, since white's pieces blockade any possible attack on the white king. Great game, great pun. |
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| May-26-09 |
| WhiteRook48: the pun again?! |
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| May-26-09 |
| I Like Fish: constant dripping...
wears the stone... |
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May-26-09
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| kevin86: Here,the pun and the game match;the white king walks down with bad intentions to defeat his foe. Some traveling music please... |
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| May-26-09 |
| MarkThornton: Short's King march is very impressive, but it also carried very little risk. I Jelen vs Larsen, 1977 is my favourite King march, because Larsen's King balances on the edge of the precipice. |
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| May-26-09 |
| Eggman: The people here quoting other games in which a "king march" occurs in the *endgame* are kind of missing the point, n'est pas? It's not a king march if it occurs in the endgame - it's just normal play. |
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May-26-09
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| Chessmensch: Black was in zugzwang as the end approached. Where his pieces weren't blocked by his own pawns they were blocked by white's. Sneaky's February comment is right on. Black just had to sit there (and make a few meaningless moves) and let the king march. |
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May-27-09
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| arsen387: Recently I saw annotations for this game and was impressed immensely. Here are some points. 1) after 13.Re1! blacks must decide how to develope his LSB, either to f5 or fianchetto. in the first case B's position is useless and in no harmony with blacks' other pieces. Timman choses the right path, but it takes much time unfortunately. 2)16.Qe4! a nasty move which prevents 16..b3, as 17.c4 will win a piece 3)17.Bc4! accepting pawn weaknesses for gaining some time 4)20..Qc5? the annotator offers Ra6 instead, giving exchange in some lines to hold the position 5)23..Bh8? is excessive, better is Bb7 24.Bxg7 Kxg7 and whites have a better game 6)26..Bxe5 doesn't work because of 27.Rxf7! followed with Rdd7 doubling the Rs on the 7th rank 7)28.R1d4 to prevent possible Qe4
Really fantastic game, I wish I could play like this :) A true masterpiece by GM Short |
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May-27-09
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| zanshin: This game is used as the example to show the limitations of infinite analysis, as well as the benefits of sliding backward (Modern Chess Analysis by Robin Smith 2004; Gambit Publications, London) Engines do not see the King walk from the starting position:  click for larger viewRybka 3 nearly 2 days on the position gives:
[+3.43] d=23 31.Ne1 Rb8 32.f3 Qxa4 33.Nd3 Bxf3 34.gxf3 Qxc2 35.Nf4 Qb1 36.Kf2 Qf5 37.Qxf5 gxf5 38.Nxh5 b5 39.cxb5 Kh7 40.Rxc7 Kh6 41.Nf6 Rxb5 42.Re7 (16:06.42) 6270059kN To be fair to Rybka, the given line also appears to be winning. When you slide forward on the actual line starting with <31.Kh2>, the engine will pick up the scent of the mate eventually. Given the fact that calculation to mate is supposed to be an engine strength, I am somewhat disappointed at how long it takes for Rybka to get the idea. However, once the engine sees the mate, the benefit of sliding backward becomes obvious. If you slide back slowly enough (wait for the right King move to be the selected move), you can go back to move 31 and have Kh2 as the top choice. The engine hash tables store the King move positions with high evaluations. This is analogous to a human player who has been shown the solution to the problem. |
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| May-27-09 |
| I Like Fish: it is easier...
to achieve a desired result...
in short pieces... |
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| May-27-09 |
| goodevans: It was only when I got to the last few moves that I realised I'd seen this game before, back when it happened. It caused quite a stir at the time and clubs up and down the UK were full of players marching their kings into the middle-game attacks. Usually with out much success! |
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May-27-09
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| SirChrislov: The following "King march followed by check" has got to be The Godfather of all King Marches. Black checks the wht King all the way up the board only to find he is doomed. the victim, Riga's great magician: Geller vs Tal, 1975 |
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Jun-19-09
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| kingscrusher: My video annotation of this game has so far been favourited 41 times on youtube:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_oY... |
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Oct-08-09
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| technical draw: I've checked all the king march games posted here but I like this one the best. There's something strange about Short's king just moving up with impunity. It has an aesthetic appeal. |
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| Oct-08-09 |
| Kinghunt: So what is black's best defense to 31. Kh2? Bc8 seems like the only plausible defense to me, by regaining the 7th rank, which is key to several lines of Short's attack. But that allows 32. Ng5 with the idea of 33. g4, which is absolutely crushing. So does black have any better defense? |
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