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|Aug-22-05|| ||The beginner: <SamualS>
and Karpov is unable to defend knight and Bishop from the Queen fork 12 Qd1.
I dont mean that the players are dumb, as these players are 1000 times better than i will ever be.
I just know the feeling being ahead almost the entire game game, only to let it all slip away with a mistake, as i do this my self way to often :)
|Aug-22-05|| ||The beginner: <Samual>
Another game i dont think Karpov remember with a smile on his face is
Sunnyvale vs Karpov, 1988
|Aug-22-05|| ||cu8sfan: <Another game i dont think Karpov remember with a smile on his face> Well, the worst would be Kasparov vs Karpov, 1987, right?|
|Aug-22-05|| ||The beginner: <cu8sfan>
Yes karpov may not want to remember that game eather :)
There is a saying in chess that you cant win, unless the oponent makes a mistake.
The diference beteween Kasparov vs Karpov, 1987
And the two other Karpov games mentioned, is in this game it is much harder to point out Karpovs mistake, the two other games are just plain blunders losing on the spot.
Kasparov vs Karpov, 1987
Where is the mistake ?
Maybe it was 31 Nxa4 after that move Karpov looks like he was Kasperovs punching bag. Both karpovs knights live on the edge of the board after the rook exchange, and kasperov wins the pawn back with 35 Nxf7.
But it is hard to point out the losing move. Actually this is in my opinion the most fasinating kind of chess games it may look a bit boring, but some players seem to be able to win games even you can not really find any mistake moves by the oponent.
|Aug-22-05|| ||Robin01: I solved this one in about 45 seconds.|
|Aug-22-05|| ||Koster: Another case of trying to hard to win. In hindsight g3 and Kh3 looks dumb, it gives the king no protection at all. 53. Kg1 and answer Q checks by moving toward the center looks like the only try.|
|Aug-22-05|| ||JustAFish: This is the first puzzle in which the instruction "White to play" instead of "White to play <and win>" has come into play for me. Seeing that white had three pawns, including a passer, I spent a good while trying to come up with a decent self-stalemate for black. When that didn't bear fruit, I searched for a win.|
|Aug-22-05|| ||PARACONT1: I actually am thankful that Borisenko made his blunder, and thus permitted generations to come to witness the winning combination. Wouldn't it be dull if everyone played perfectly or wins were grinded out thru pure technique?|
|Aug-22-05|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: Happy new week guys! Pretty tricky puzzle for Mondays!|
|Aug-22-05|| ||MaxxLange: Another position which falls quickly to the "examine all checks and captures" rule.|
|Aug-22-05|| ||notyetagm: In his attempt to win with his extra passed pawn in a queen ending White stumbles into a mate in 3: 59 ♔g4?? f5+! 60 gxf6ep (60 ♔h4 ♕h1#) ♕f5+ 61 ♔h4 ♕h5#. Like someone else said here, it would be very easy to miss this forced mating line in an attempt to end the annoying Black queen checks and win the game by promoting the extra pawn.|
|Aug-22-05|| ||YouRang: I tried a few queen moves and came up with nothing, mostly because of the white g5 pawn.|
I finally tried the pawn check 59... f5+, which must be captured e.p. by white (or else 60... Qh1#).
Of course, 60 gxf5 e.p. clears away that bothersome white g5 pawn that was impeding black's queen attack, allowing 60... Qf5+ followed by Qh5#.
Fairly easy since there were so few choices.
|Aug-22-05|| ||kevin86: I first thought the en passant capture would hinder black's mating possibilities-instead,they enabled them. A rare case where material advantage actually leads to a loss in the endgame.|
|Aug-22-05|| ||al wazir: <aginis: 32.Rf2 Qxe4 33.Qxc7 Rxf1+ 34.Kxf1 Qb1+ 35.> Ke2 <Qxa2+ probably leads to a draw if not better for black.> Yes, I missed 33...Rxf1+. But <The beginner> is right. <Acording to fritz 32 Rf2 was better. Best play from black is to keep checking the white king until he can pick up the white rook, in exchange for his bishop.> (I don't think he can.) <Then it will be Q vs Q but white is still up 2 pawns, wich should win the game easely?> The king can reach a hiding place by 36. Ke3 Qxb3+ 37. Kf4 g5+ 38. Kg4 Qd1+ 39. Kg3 Qd3+ 40. Kh2. (I'm not sure that this is white's best line.) White is no longer two pawns ahead, but the mate looks unstoppable.|
|Aug-22-05|| ||sharpnova: <Rocafella> of all the things i hate that people do on chessgames.com.. the one i hate the most is people who whine about the people who brag about getting puzzles easily. just because it's hard for some people doesn't mean that the people who got it easily can't brag. it's human nature. get over it. there is nothing wrong with it. they dont' have to come and admit to puzzles they didn't get just to appease you.|
|Aug-22-05|| ||Uchechi: One of the easiest puzzules I have ever solved. Seems easy for a Monday.|
|Aug-22-05|| ||Rocafella: <sharpnova> Isn't the aim of this site to improve players, and for stronger players to guide weaker ones? Have you ever thought that by saying a puzzle is <too easy> you are offending the people who didn't get it and therefore demoralising them? Imagine a play not getting the puzzle, looking and finding people complaining it was too easy. Would they not then feel there is no need to pursue the game, if the cannot get a puzzle which is <too easy> This may be an extreme case and a person's character is questionable when they are thinking like this, but believe me, there are people out there like this.|
|Aug-22-05|| ||Rocafella: <sharpnova> Also, I am not bothered if people share with us whether they got the puzzle, their triumphs or hinderences. This is in fact good. I am talking about <too easy> comments.|
|Aug-22-05|| ||Boomie: A wild guess for this week's puzzle theme: "Always check. It might be mate."|
|Aug-22-05|| ||MaxxLange: <Boomie> I sort of doubt it...|
|Aug-22-05|| ||HastyMover: I got this one, so it must have been easy! I played around with my queen for a couple of minutes, but then decided to see what would happen if the pawn moved up to f6+, and immediately saw the checkmate.|
I must admit though, I didn't think of the black en passant move. If that had happened, I would have probably seen the checkmate afterwards, but maybe not.
From a beginner's perspective, I will admit that seeing your comments about how <easy> a puzzle is, is rather discouraging. Especially when I can't even figure out the other player resigned after the answer is revealed. Thankfully, that doesn't happen too often for me, maybe once every couple of weeks.
|Aug-22-05|| ||franksp: We as observers have it easy. We are given a position with Black to play. This suggests to us there must be a combination to help Black. So we make a special effort to find that combination, in this case, beginning 59... f5+. But while playing the game there is nothing to tell the player that this position is special in so far as there is a swindle available. So that makes Black's achievement in finding 59... f5+ all the more commendable. Frank James Marshal was very strong in this area.|
|Aug-22-05|| ||BishopofBlunder: <Boomie> <A wild guess for this week's puzzle theme: "Always check. It might be mate."> I like it!|
|Aug-27-05|| ||Richard Taylor: <The Beginner> You were using "dumb" in kind of US slangy way? fair enough...I think young people here in Kiwiland also use that expression - "I grow, I grow old,/ I should wear the bottoms of my trousers roled"|
< PARACONT1: I actually am thankful that Borisenko made his blunder, and thus permitted generations to come to witness the winning combination. Wouldn't it be dull if everyone played perfectly or wins were grinded out thru pure technique > yes!!
|Oct-31-12|| ||vinidivici: This game is a gift for Simagin. 59.Kg4 surely made Borisenko surrendered this game to Simagin.|
A year before at Riga 1955, Simagin made a more tragic move in the winning position in the same kind of endgame.
Here i gave u a diagram
Batuev vs Simagin, Riga 1954, black to move
click for larger view
in this winning position, Simagin did the e2???? And surrendered the game to Batuev.
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qf3 Nbd7 8. O-O-O Be7 9. Rg1 Qc7 10. g4 b5 11. a3 Bb7 12. h4 O-O 13. Bxf6 Bxf6 14. g5 Be5 15. h5 Nc5 16. Rg4 f5 17. gxf6 Rxf6 18. Qe2 Raf8 19. f3 Bxd4 20. Rxd4 Rxf3 21. Bg2 Nb3+ 22. cxb3 Rxc3+ 23. Kb1 Rc1+ 24. Ka2 Rc2 25. Rd2 Rxd2 26. Qxd2 e5 27. Rg3 Qe7 28. Rd3 Rf6 29. Qe3 Bc8 30. Bh3 Bxh3 31. Qxh3 Qb7 32. Rf3 Rxf3 33. Qxf3 Qd7 34. Qd3 h6 35. Qd5+ Kh7 36. Qa8 g5 37. hxg6+ Kxg6 38. Qxa6 h5 39. Qb6 h4 40. Qg1+ Kh5 41. Qd1+ Qg4 42. Qxd6 Qxe4 43. Qe6 Kg5 44. a4 bxa4 45. b4 a3 46. b5 axb2 47. Qe7+ Kg4 48. Qe6+ Kf4 49. Qf7+ Ke3 50. Qb3+ Qd3 51. Qxd3+ Kxd3 52. Kxb2 h3 53. b6 h2 54. b7 h1=Q 55. b8=Q Qd5 56. Kc1 Qc5+ 57. Kb1 Qc2+ 58. Ka1 Qc3+ 59. Kb1 e4 60. Qd6+ Qd4 61. Qg6 Kc3 62. Qc6+ Kd2 63. Qc2+ Ke1 64. Qc6 Qd3+ 65. Kc1 e3 66. Qh1+ Qf1 67. Qh4+ Ke2+ 68. Kc2 Qf5+ 69. Kc3 Qc5+ 70. Kb2 Kd3 71. Qh7+ Kd2 72. Qh6 Qd4+ 73. Ka2 Qc4+ 74. Kb2 Qc3+ 75. Ka2 Qe5 76. Kb3 Qe4 77. Qg5 Qc2+ 78. Ka3 Qc6 79. Kb2 Ke2 80. Kb1 Qe4+ 81. Kb2 Kf2 82. Qc5 Kf1 83. Qf8+ Ke1 84. Qg7 e2 85. Qg1+ Kd2 86. Qc1+ Kd3 87. Qc3#
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