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Boris Spassky vs Mikhail Tal
USSR Championship (1958)  ·  Nimzo-Indian Defense: Saemisch Variation (E26)  ·  0-1
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Jul-31-11  cwcarlson: After 65.Qd8 White is not losing.
Feb-25-12  AlphaMale: A bespectacled and bowtied Spassky before the start of this fateful game:

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By 1960, Spassky cut a more familiar figure:

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  Penguincw: It's an all new ending when the queens are born again on the board.
Oct-30-12  wildrookie: f5 was like the last nail to the White's coffin.
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  offramp: One of those games that goes Opening - Middlegame - Endgame then back to Middlegame.
Oct-11-14  thulium: What's wrong with 61.....RxR?
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  FSR: <thulium> 61...Rxe8?? 62.Qg5+ Ke6 63.Qe5#.
Jan-03-15  Howard: The book Tal: Magic of Youth claims that 58.Qb8! would have won quicker, and that Kasparov's MGP overlooks that.

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  RookFile: Must be a typo. I'm looking at the position, 58. Qb8 is a not a legal move.

Position after 57....Rd6:

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  WannaBe: <RookFile> And that is why your nickname is not "The Magician". =))

Only Tal have the ability to play that queen move.

Jan-16-15  Howard: Aarrrrrrgh !!!

I meant that 57.Qb8 would have won quicker---not on the 58th move though. My mistake !

Not only that, 58.Qe5+ (and THAT move is legal !) would also have been a quicker win.

For everyone's information, both of these improvements appear in the excellent book Tal: Magic of Youth. That book just came out a few months ago, and it's the first of three projected volumes.

Anyone out there who knows Uncle Rybka or Aunt Stockfish, care to comment on these alternatives ?

Jun-11-15  poorthylacine: Very good and nice variant of offramp, showing that the win was still possible at the 59th move!
Jun-11-15  Howard: Just where is this analysis by Offramp ?!
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  offramp: <Howard: Just where is this analysis by Offramp ?!>

You won't read this because I'm on your ignore list.

Jun-13-15  Howard: If I may please ask, why is that ? There is no one on my "ignore" list.
Jun-13-15  beatgiant: <Howard>
Have you tried looking at Page 1 of the kibitzing?
Jun-15-15  Howard: Yes, I just did ! Perhaps we could have more detailed proof, however.
Sep-13-15  Zugzwangovich: Unless I'm missing something simpler, after 74.Qc3 Rf1 Black forces off all the heavy artillery and reaches a king and pawn endgame a tyro could win against a GM.
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  Domdaniel: "He [Spassky] conducted the middle section of the game superbly and at the adjournment Black's position gave serious call for alarm." (Tal)

Many of us have played 'difficult' games, where crucial decisions must be made again and again, move after move -- but here Spassky and Tal seem to draw out the agony for an eternity.

Nov-07-15  thegoodanarchist: <Many of us have played 'difficult' games, where crucial decisions must be made again and again, move after move>

What is worse is when I reject a move at a critical juncture, and make a different move that goes on to lose.

Then I get home and analyze the game with my engine, only to find the rejected move was the engine's top choice and leads to advantage.

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  Domdaniel: <thegoodanarchist> Yes, that hurts. Even worse, I reckon, is when your opponent says something like "Why didn't you play d5 here? I was worried about that" ... and you say "I thought about it for a long time, but I just couldn't see a way forward..." and *then* your engine shows that the move was winning after all. Plus, of course, your 'safe' alternative move loses.
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  RandomVisitor: After 64...Qa6

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<+0.00/28 65.Rc1> Re2+ 66.Kg3 Qd6+ 67.Kh3 Qe6 68.Qb8 Kf6+ 69.Kh2 Qe7 70.Qh8+ Kf5 71.Qc8+ Kf6 72.Qh8+

Nov-08-15  thegoodanarchist: <Domdaniel: <thegoodanarchist> Yes, that hurts. Even worse, I reckon, is when your opponent says something like "Why didn't you play d5 here? I was worried about that" ... >

Haha, you must get a higher class of opponent than me. The only time I went over a tournament game with my opponent and he was super classy was when I lost to IM Ron Burnett. That guy was very complimentary of my positional understanding in the Pirc, and going over the game with him was like getting a free chess lesson.

All the other times, according to my opponent, I was completely lost for the entire game and he just kept missing the winning shot time after time, until he unfortunately had to resign.

But I digress. I will say one thing in my defense - the particular game I am thinking of, in which I considered playing the engine's top move and rejected it, was against Hanna Itkis. She is incredibly hot, and so I was distracted.

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  RookFile: This is an amazing game by Tal. Everything was going right for Spassky for the longest time in this game, and totally had the look of 1-0 written all over it. Yet Tal hangs in there, finding resource after resource.
Nov-21-15  Howard: The last portion of this game is analyzed extensively in the latest issue of New in Chess----2015/7.
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