|Mar-05-04|| ||Taidanii: Does 23. Rxf3 not get white out of this? |
|Mar-06-04|| ||chessfected: Nope. After 23...Qf6 24. Rxf6+ Kxf6 the white queen is still trapped and 25. Qxh8 Rxh8 leaves black a piece up with an easy win |
|Mar-06-04|| ||drukenknight: chessf: in that line isnt 25 Nd5+
earlier what about: 21 Qf4?
|Apr-09-04|| ||chessfected: Even after 25. Nxd5+ Kf7 black should still end a piece up. It seems like 21. Qf4 Kg8! should settle the issue (22...Bg5 is threatened) by containing the attack |
|Feb-22-05|| ||kevin86: Surprise! White loses this one! |
|Apr-11-15|| ||A.T PhoneHome: Haven't seen that kind of Queen bottle-up before!
Uhlmann, as the involuntary co-conspirator, wasn't probably too happy after this.
|Apr-11-15|| ||keypusher: Based on the early kibitzing it looks like the game score initially had White resigning after Black's 22nd. That's also how it's recorded in Marovic and Parma's repertoire book. Anyone know whether that's correct?|
In any event, Black's 22nd move is beautiful. If you play over the game, you're wondering how to deal with the threat of 23.Rxf3+, but it turns out Black can just ignore it!
|Apr-11-15|| ||A.T PhoneHome: <keypusher> The position after 22...Rh8 is madness. I mean; not only is Queen trapped, it is also now pinned to Rook on h3. Or is the Queen technically pinned if any Queen move loses that Queen?|
|Apr-11-15|| ||Howard: Probably doesn't matter ! Keep in mind that in some cases, it's debatable as to whether a piece is really "pinned" or not.|
Of course, one obvious exception is when a piece is pinned against its king. In that case, it's a pin---no ands, buts, or ifs.
|Apr-11-15|| ||A.T PhoneHome: Of course as that one is an absolute pin. :P even I know that, haha! And I guess it doesn't matter since Queen moves are legal in this position.|
Just wondered if there's a technicality regarding positions like this (Queen is both trapped AND pinned).
|Jan-16-17|| ||Honza Cervenka: 22...Rh8 is cool move but simple 22...Qf6 was also possible.|