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|Mar-14-13|| ||Hesam7: <Olavi: The argument is based on analysis of the games, not rating. The number of elementary Spassky blunders is unbelievable. But this game is certainly not a case in point.>|
I would take that seriously if it did not happen to everyone else who played Fischer at the time.
Fischer was "blunder inducing", I don't have an explanation but you can't just say Spassky was out of form in the match, which lasted for 53 days (started on July 11 and ended when Spassky resigned on September 1 without resuming the game).
|Mar-14-13|| ||Olavi: <Hesam7> Yes, that's exactly it: they did <experience a dip in form>. While I'm sure Fischer's intensity made the opponents less sure of themselves, I don't think the one move blunders can be explained, it's mystical, perhaps there is something to hypnosis after all... In any case, about Spassky's form there can be no question.|
|Mar-15-13|| ||Sneaky: The reason why Fischer's opponents played below their strength is simple:|
Everybody knows Bobby's best Soviet friend was Tal. Misha secretly taught Fischer the art of hypnotizing his opponents. And only Pal Benko (see photo) was smart enough to wear hypno-proof sunglasses, but he didn't wear them against Fischer.
|Mar-15-13|| ||RookFile: I enjoy playing over Petrosian's games when I can. We're talking about a guy who had the same tactical strength as Tal, but used this ability primarily for defensive purposes. I think this lead to some profound chess.|
With regard to Fischer, this is what I think happened in those 1970's games. In 1971, he had defeated another dynamic player, Viktor Korchnoi, in a match were he just made one draw after another. Then, there was a game where Korchnoi let his guard down a little, and Petrosian siezed his chance to earn the lone win in that match.
I think he thought he could do the same thing to Fischer when they played their match. Hindsight is always 20-20 and suggests that his best chance would have been been to try to put Fischer away early, before Fischer became fully confident in that match. If Petrosian could have taken a two game lead, Fischer might have found himself in a real bind.
|May-01-13|| ||SeanAzarin: This game locked up the match for Fischer. If Spassky could have kept the deficit at 2 games, he could have [not likely, but possible] fought back to a 12-12 tie, which would have retained him the title. But once he dropped to 3 games back, Fischer ran off a series of draws and drained the life out of Spassky's chances.|
|May-01-13|| ||lost in space: <<Garech:> Everyone loves game six - but for me, this is the best of the match; superb chess!
I completely agree. For me this is one of the best games ever.
|May-01-13|| ||Petrosianic: Depends what the question is. This game has the most meat of any game in the match, definitely. But if by best you mean best-played, it may not be.|
|May-01-13|| ||RookFile: Bronstein and Soviets felt the same way. Aside from the errors, this game features rich, unusual problems to solve. It is like Lewis and Clark finding a new frontier to explore.|
|May-02-13|| ||HeMateMe: Pawn Sacagawea|
|Jul-04-13|| ||offramp: In games 11 to 20 Spassky's play was much better.|
|Jul-04-13|| ||perfidious: <2Towers: It's sickening to read neg tricisms against such a brilliant player. I'ld just like to remind you expert-as-if- patzers, that you are only kibitzers! Sometimes you talk chess like you know better. Your egos are just gonna crack like rotten eggs if you were to play Bobby like you had no clue what happened. This man defeated the entire Russian chess team with unequalled brilliancy and elegance, and you think you know better? The guy had no computers to help him think, so for those thick-face analysts saying, "my Fritz version analyzed as so and so," go take a leak, and think about using your brains instead if you got one. Enjoy the chess legacy of this man, because if there is anyone to compare him with, he is not yet born in this generation.>|
|Aug-14-13|| ||leka: Boris Spassky his total score against Fischer a big suprise for me.Fischer 17 wins Spssky 11 wins 28 draws.Many people tought that Fischer would beat Spassky in 1972 12.5-5.5.Because Fischer had beaten Taimanov 6-0 Larsen 6-0 Petrosian 6.5-2.5.But Spassky played 4 games very poorly in the 1972 match one Ruy Lopez English symmetrical Benoni Nimo Indian and Queens Gambit Tartakover-Magonov.Spassky played these games in the level of 2000-2044 elo rating level.The mistakes like Queen c2?? a level 2044 move|
|Aug-14-13|| ||harrylime: <perfidious: <Olavi> In the crazy world of <harrylime>, anything is possible; in fact, when it comes to Fischer, on pain of death, we shall not blaspheme that otherworldly being.
Let us deal in realities, as we leave <harry> to his delusions.>|
Fischer possessed an aurora of invincibility around this time and it was based on his beautiful play and demonic will to win over the board...
This really did intimidate the opposition before a pawn was moved.
|Aug-14-13|| ||mjmorri: Executive Summary: White drops a pawn in the opening, and the rest is technique.|
|Aug-19-13|| ||leka: The truth is that M.Carlsen Bobby Fischer Garry Kasparov should have a same rating they were and are the same level.But E.Lasker won in New York chess tournament in 1924 at age 56 years old.Fischer or Karpov never could win the toughest tournament at age 56 in the world that year.And Fischer called Lasker a coffey house player.And they are a study who made the fewest errors Capablaca won one.Fischer won too but i believe in that study an error was 1.25 pawn loss that is a huge mistake.Alekhine in San Remo in 1930 3047 rating score.Nimzowitsch in Dresden in 1926 3026.And Karpov in Linares in 1994 3017 rating score.No Kasparov or Fischer.Fischer the highest might be in 1970 blitz 2991 rating.|
|Sep-17-13|| ||Ed Frank: Games of this beauty and complexity remind me that I don't know a thing about Chess.|
|Nov-03-13|| ||Zonszein: This is one of the most exciting games ever.
Spassky played brilliantly in the middle game, after a disastrous opening, only to fail to same the game in the ending.
I think this can only be explained psichologically.
A Freudian explanation should be found: "Oh! I want Bobby to become WC, if I save this game I'll beat him on the next one (Spassky was winning the 14th) and he won't become WC! No no. I need to lose...!"
|Nov-03-13|| ||Eduardo Bermudez: A Freudian explanation should be found: "Oh! I want Bobby to become WC, if I save this game I'll beat him on the next one (Spassky was winning the 14th) and he won't become WC! No no. I need to lose...!" Zonszein|
|Nov-03-13|| ||diceman: <Sneaky: The reason why Fischer's opponents played below their strength is simple:>|
Below their strength?
0-6, 0-6, sounded just about right for Taimanov/Larsen.
|Nov-03-13|| ||Swedenborg: Did not Fischer sort of break the spirit the Alekhine defense in a few of his early games from the 60s? You have to excuse me, but I am still catching up on a lot of "Fischer lore".|
In any event, could Spassky have produced a more comfortable game with 4.c4?
|Nov-03-13|| ||perfessor: This is a great game, by both players. But I always found White's 7th and 8th moves odd - almost contradictory.|
|Nov-04-13|| ||Zonszein: They are indeed.
They are simply bad.
|Nov-04-13|| ||keypusher: <Swedenborg: Did not Fischer sort of break the spirit the Alekhine defense in a few of his early games from the 60s? >|
No (speaking as someone who plays it regularly). He faced it in two serious games in his life, both against Hans Berliner. Both games featured a fairly rare sideline.
<In any event, could Spassky have produced a more comfortable game with 4.c4?>
4.Nf3 and 4.c4 are both perfectly good moves and can produce comfortable games if that is what White wants.
|Nov-04-13|| ||harrylime: <perfessor: This is a great game, by both players. But I always found White's 7th and 8th moves odd - almost contradictory.>|
It is a wonderful game. Pretty iconic. As to Boris' 7th and 8th moves I can see what you mean but maybe he wanted to avoid the queen swap with Nbd2 and h3 is maybe aimed at a potential g4 and limiting Bobby's white squared bishop.
|Dec-02-13|| ||Meaux: <lost in space: Everyone loves game six> Indeed; I love game six as my #1 in 1972 due to the unpredictable opening that throws Spassky off. This game is defiantly my #2.|
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