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|Jul-04-13|| ||perfidious: <2Towers: It's sickening to read neg tricisms against such a brilliant player. I'ld just like to remind you expert-as-if- patzers, that you are only kibitzers! Sometimes you talk chess like you know better. Your egos are just gonna crack like rotten eggs if you were to play Bobby like you had no clue what happened. This man defeated the entire Russian chess team with unequalled brilliancy and elegance, and you think you know better? The guy had no computers to help him think, so for those thick-face analysts saying, "my Fritz version analyzed as so and so," go take a leak, and think about using your brains instead if you got one. Enjoy the chess legacy of this man, because if there is anyone to compare him with, he is not yet born in this generation.>|
|Aug-14-13|| ||leka: Boris Spassky his total score against Fischer a big suprise for me.Fischer 17 wins Spssky 11 wins 28 draws.Many people tought that Fischer would beat Spassky in 1972 12.5-5.5.Because Fischer had beaten Taimanov 6-0 Larsen 6-0 Petrosian 6.5-2.5.But Spassky played 4 games very poorly in the 1972 match one Ruy Lopez English symmetrical Benoni Nimo Indian and Queens Gambit Tartakover-Magonov.Spassky played these games in the level of 2000-2044 elo rating level.The mistakes like Queen c2?? a level 2044 move|
|Aug-14-13|| ||harrylime: <perfidious: <Olavi> In the crazy world of <harrylime>, anything is possible; in fact, when it comes to Fischer, on pain of death, we shall not blaspheme that otherworldly being.
Let us deal in realities, as we leave <harry> to his delusions.>|
Fischer possessed an aurora of invincibility around this time and it was based on his beautiful play and demonic will to win over the board...
This really did intimidate the opposition before a pawn was moved.
|Aug-14-13|| ||mjmorri: Executive Summary: White drops a pawn in the opening, and the rest is technique.|
|Aug-19-13|| ||leka: The truth is that M.Carlsen Bobby Fischer Garry Kasparov should have a same rating they were and are the same level.But E.Lasker won in New York chess tournament in 1924 at age 56 years old.Fischer or Karpov never could win the toughest tournament at age 56 in the world that year.And Fischer called Lasker a coffey house player.And they are a study who made the fewest errors Capablaca won one.Fischer won too but i believe in that study an error was 1.25 pawn loss that is a huge mistake.Alekhine in San Remo in 1930 3047 rating score.Nimzowitsch in Dresden in 1926 3026.And Karpov in Linares in 1994 3017 rating score.No Kasparov or Fischer.Fischer the highest might be in 1970 blitz 2991 rating.|
|Sep-17-13|| ||Ed Frank: Games of this beauty and complexity remind me that I don't know a thing about Chess.|
|Nov-03-13|| ||Zonszein: This is one of the most exciting games ever.
Spassky played brilliantly in the middle game, after a disastrous opening, only to fail to same the game in the ending.
I think this can only be explained psichologically.
A Freudian explanation should be found: "Oh! I want Bobby to become WC, if I save this game I'll beat him on the next one (Spassky was winning the 14th) and he won't become WC! No no. I need to lose...!"
|Nov-03-13|| ||Eduardo Bermudez: A Freudian explanation should be found: "Oh! I want Bobby to become WC, if I save this game I'll beat him on the next one (Spassky was winning the 14th) and he won't become WC! No no. I need to lose...!" Zonszein|
|Nov-03-13|| ||diceman: <Sneaky: The reason why Fischer's opponents played below their strength is simple:>|
Below their strength?
0-6, 0-6, sounded just about right for Taimanov/Larsen.
|Nov-03-13|| ||Swedenborg: Did not Fischer sort of break the spirit the Alekhine defense in a few of his early games from the 60s? You have to excuse me, but I am still catching up on a lot of "Fischer lore".|
In any event, could Spassky have produced a more comfortable game with 4.c4?
|Nov-03-13|| ||perfessor: This is a great game, by both players. But I always found White's 7th and 8th moves odd - almost contradictory.|
|Nov-04-13|| ||Zonszein: They are indeed.
They are simply bad.
|Nov-04-13|| ||keypusher: <Swedenborg: Did not Fischer sort of break the spirit the Alekhine defense in a few of his early games from the 60s? >|
No (speaking as someone who plays it regularly). He faced it in two serious games in his life, both against Hans Berliner. Both games featured a fairly rare sideline.
<In any event, could Spassky have produced a more comfortable game with 4.c4?>
4.Nf3 and 4.c4 are both perfectly good moves and can produce comfortable games if that is what White wants.
|Nov-04-13|| ||harrylime: <perfessor: This is a great game, by both players. But I always found White's 7th and 8th moves odd - almost contradictory.>|
It is a wonderful game. Pretty iconic. As to Boris' 7th and 8th moves I can see what you mean but maybe he wanted to avoid the queen swap with Nbd2 and h3 is maybe aimed at a potential g4 and limiting Bobby's white squared bishop.
|Dec-02-13|| ||Meaux: <lost in space: Everyone loves game six> Indeed; I love game six as my #1 in 1972 due to the unpredictable opening that throws Spassky off. This game is defiantly my #2.|
|Feb-06-14|| ||Kite: I hope this isn't a bad question. After 22. Rad1, why didn't Fischer take e5 with his bishop?|
|Feb-08-14|| ||Kite: Oh I see, it's because his h6 will be open. Sorry|
|Feb-08-14|| ||SChesshevsky: < Kite: After 22. Rad1, why didn't Fischer take e5 with his bishop?>|
It's good analysis to concentrate on e5. Though Fischer couldn't take it at 22..., he saw the importance of the square and the a1 diagonal.
A lot of the play from around move 22 to 31 was related to e5 and clearing the diagonal, which ended up basically winning the game though it took awhile.
|Feb-08-14|| ||morfishine: Improvements for White have been identified over the years; for example 25.e6 (instead of 25.Qc3?) 25...Nc4 26.Qc1 and White has counterplay|
And finally, Spassky blooped the game away entirely with 69.Rd1+??? when 69.Rc3 holds the draw
Great game nonetheless
|Feb-08-14|| ||RookFile: Aside from winning the pawn, Fischer's great achievement in the opening was to transform the c8 bishop into a fearsome piece.|
|Feb-09-14|| ||morfishine: <RookFile> Excellent point: Also, the way BF "proved" 9.a4 was a mistake is was very impressive|
|Jul-11-14|| ||newzild: <perfessor> <This is a great game, by both players. But I always found White's 7th and 8th moves odd - almost contradictory.>|
White plays 7. Nbd2 for two reasons: Firstly, Black threatens to capture on e5, forcing the exchange of queens. Placing the knight on d2 blocks the exchange file. Given Spassky's match position, queen exchanges are to be avoided. Secondly, it gives White the option of playing c3 at some point, bolstering the centre and blunting the power of Black's dark-squared bishop.
White plays 8. h3 because Black is playing a hypermodern strategy of applying piece-pressure to White's advanced centre, and White therefore wants to stop 8...Bg4. On a broader strategic level, White has a space advantage and therefore wants to restrict the squares available to Black's pieces (in this case, the light-squared bishop) and the possibility of piece exchanges (by Bg4, Bxf3).
|Jul-20-14|| ||cplyakap: 69.Rd1+?? is blunder.69.Rc3! holds draw.|
|Aug-01-14|| ||guenther42: I love replaying this mind-blowing game. Botvinnik called it Fischer's greatest achievement at Reykjavik. Bronstein commented: "Out of the entire match, I find the 13th game the most attractive...like a mysterious sphynx, it teases my imagination."|
|Aug-01-14|| ||Petrosianic: I don't know if it's his greatest achievement, it's a flawed game on both sides. But it's a definite contender for most interesting game of the match. I think it was the toughest game for each of the players.|
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