|Feb-07-04|| ||thesonicvision: why can't white play Qe3? |
|Feb-07-04|| ||Benjamin Lau: 25...Rd2!! 26. Qe3 Nc4 27. Qf4 Qxc5 and black has too many threats- the mate after Qxf2+ and the capture of the bishop. That's what it looks like at a first glance, I may be wrong. |
|Feb-07-04|| ||Benjamin Lau: sac4animal, you didn't need to delete your post. It was obvious that you you happened to analyze it at the same time I did. |
|Feb-07-04|| ||crafty: 26. e3 c4 27. c1 xe3 28. xe3 c2 29. a3 d8 (eval -3.25; depth 16 ply; 750M nodes)|
|Feb-07-04|| ||d4Nf6Bg5: oh cool- even I got this one!! |
|Feb-07-04|| ||thesonicvision: i missed the simple Nc4...thanks |
|Feb-07-04|| ||catfriend: We see the knight threatens the very undefended f3, protected inly by the queen. I can't resist the idea of deflecting the queen, then having a bishop a check and even a fork on f1. The only way to deflect e2 is 25..d2. Then I see 26.:d2 :f3+ with a fork on the royal family! We're almost there. What if 26.e3? is :b2 enough for us? I don't think so.. Who can still attack the poor queen? hmmm... Nc4! locks her! Hurray! |
|Feb-07-04|| ||kevin86: Knight rules!! the fork and other attack possibilities make black's knight equal to the queen-if not better |
|Feb-07-04|| ||Calchexas: kevin86: But, of course, the knight isn't equal to the queen until the superior pseudo-pseudo-sacrifice 25. ...Rd2!! which limits the queen and threatens to win it. Hug plays fairly well for one in that situation. 26. Nc4 is no doubt a good move - if Black doesn't act immediately, White reacts and gains the upper hand.|
I saw Rd2 by instinct...I guess I'm developing : )
|Feb-07-04|| ||patzer2: Notice how the positional pawn sacrifice 19...c4! gashes White's pawn structure, creating isolated pawns and holes in the White position to facilitate Black's attack. |
|Feb-07-04|| ||patzer2: Perhaps Hug should have considered 9. e5 as in Vaganian vs Beliavsky, 1983 where White won the flank attack after convincing Black that Queenside castling was better. However, the game Z3 Ilic vs Galego, 2002 would suggest Black can survive 9. e5 with careful preparation prior to queenside castling. |
|Feb-07-04|| ||Calchexas: I meant 26. Nd3. D'oh! |
|Feb-07-04|| ||patzer2: I don't particularly like 10. b3 (Black wins 50% and draws 30% in the Opening Explorer), as it seems to give Black an advantage on the Queenside and limits Black's options too much, as in this game and E Senador vs B Villamayor, 2001 |
I'm thinking a more solid and flexible option for White is 10. Re1 as in Speelman vs M Sadler, 1996 The immediate draw offered by a strong GM playing Black in A Fominyh vs K Landa, 2003 would suggest White has a solid game after 10. Re1.
|Feb-07-04|| ||Fingol: 25. Nxc5 seems like a really bad move, the first and only blunder by white in that game? Why was he so eager to swap his knight for his bishop when his knight was covering such a vital square d2? |
|Feb-07-04|| ||Reisswolf: Aww! Poor White! He just needs a...never mind! |
|Feb-07-04|| ||technical draw: <Reisswolf> Poor white needs what? A slap on the back, the Heimlich manuever, 6 million units of pennicilin? What? Oh, I see... |
|Feb-08-04|| ||patzer2: <Fingol> I beleive you are correct in stating 25. Nxc5?? is the first tactical blunder of the game. However, even without this move White clearly had the inferior position against the recent former World champion, and I believe that was due to superior opening choices and positional play by Black earlier in the game. |
At this juncture, Fritz 8 gives the best alternative for White as 25. Bg2 (not 25. NxB??) Nd3 26. Nxc5 Nxe1 27. Nxe6 Nf3+ 28. Qxf3 fxe6 29. h3 Rd2 30. Bc1 Rc2 (-0.59 @ 17/42 depth & 742kN/s). If this is indeed the best White can do at this point, then I believe Hug is lost positionally (down the exchange against Spassky), and needs to find an improvement earlier.
<Reisswolf/technical draw> White is an International Master (and at the time was a recent Junior World Champion) who simply got outplayed in the opening and then missed a great positional move (19...c4!) and a brilliant tactical shot (25...Rd2!!) by a former world champion. I think he deserves respect, and I'm sure White knows what he needs to improve on his play in this game.
Hug, Werner (1952- )
World Junior champion in 1971 and Swiss champion in 1975. In 1979 he set a world record, playing 560 simultaneous games, winning 365, drawing 126, losing 49.
|Jan-18-05|| ||aw1988: Poor white needs a bath. |
|Jan-18-05|| ||Benzol: Looks like he got a cold shower