|Oct-08-15|| ||DrGridlock: Before computers, just about anything a grandmaster wrote was accepted as deeply insightful. In this game, Yusupov commented after 18 Nxf3+|
At this point I took rather a fainthearted decision - to head for an ending a pawn up, which I was not certain to win. I should of course have carried on with the attack, but unfortunately I miscalculated. It seemed to me that the position after 18 ... Rf8 19 Bxe5 dxe5 20 Qd4 was not entirely clear. But by looking just a little further I could have reached the opposite conclusion: 20 ... Qg5+ 21 Qg4 Qf6, and Black has a fearsome attack. I am afraid the game continuation was much more prosaic.
Analysis by Komodo finds that Black's attack is not so "fearsome":
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1. ± (0.90): 22.Qg3 h5 23.Re3 h4 24.Qxe5 Qg6+ 25.Kf1 Qxc2 26.Qe6+ Kh7 27.Qg4 Qxb2 28.Rd1 Kg8 29.Qe6+ Kh7 30.Qe7 Qf6 31.Qxf6 Rxf6 32.Ke2 Rf7 33.Rd4 g5 34.b4 Kg6 35.Rd8
and that in fact, Black has thrown away his positional advantage so that it is White who now has the significant winning chances.
As a personal observation, it seems that most GM analysis mistakes vs computer analysis seem to over-state the "fearsomeness" of an attack, and do not find a defensive resource that computers seem to find.
|Oct-08-15|| ||Gypsy: <... As a personal observation, it seems that most GM analysis mistakes vs computer analysis seem to over-state the "fearsomeness" of an attack, and do not find a defensive resource that computers seem to find.>|
|Oct-08-15|| ||keypusher: <Dr Gridlock
As a personal observation, it seems that most GM analysis mistakes vs computer analysis seem to over-state the "fearsomeness" of an attack, and do not find a defensive resource that computers seem to find.>
On the other hand, just because a computer thinks an attack isn't fearsome doesn't mean that a human being won't be scared, and rightly. Computers don't get nervous, they're not bothered by defending difficult positions under constant threat of mate, and they don't make trivial tactical oversights, so of course they are great defenders. Humans, even grandmasters, generally aren't like that.
|Oct-08-15|| ||perfidious: <DrGridlock: Before computers, just about anything a grandmaster wrote was accepted as deeply insightful....>|
Sure--by those who cannot, or will not, think for themselves.
The ability to think critically is a vital trait, and not only in chess.
|Oct-08-15|| ||DrGridlock: <The ability to think critically is a vital trait, and not only in chess.>|
We're in agreement on that point.
Who has thought more critically:
- One who makes a sweeping judgment that, "Black has a fearsome attack"
- One who examines the concrete lines in a particular position to determine whether an attack breaks through or does not?
Think critically before you reply :)
|Oct-08-15|| ||perfidious: Looks pretty fearsome to me. (laughs)|
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